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Four Sigmatic on Skin Care & Immunity

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Katie: Hiya, and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s W-E-L-L-N-E-S-S-E.com. It’s my new private care line that’s EWG protected and completely pure. And this episode, I’m right here with a very good good friend of mine, Tero Isokauppila, who’s a real enjoyable man, pun meant. So, Tero’s roots, or mycelium in his phrases, if you’ll, are in Finland the place he grew up foraging for mushrooms and different wild meals on his household farm that they’ve owned since 1619. He later earned a level in chemistry, enterprise and a certificates in plant-based diet from Cornell College. In 2012, he based Four Sigmatic, which is one in all my favourite corporations. It’s an organization dedicated to elevating our day by day routines by making every single day magical by way of utilizing revolutionary mushroom-based merchandise, like mushroom espresso, edible skincare, and so on.

He’s an professional in all issues associated to mushrooms, adaptogens, well being, startups and punny dad jokes. He’s additionally the creator of two bestselling books, “Therapeutic Mushrooms” and “Santa Bought Shrooms,” which is a kids’s guide. On this episode, in mild of all the pieces going on at present, we go deep not nearly pure skincare and the way what you set on your physique goes into your physique, but in addition in regards to the immune system and the way we will help our our bodies from the within out and the skin in, in anxious instances and be sure that we’re optimally set as much as deal with no matter life throws at us. So, with out additional ado, let’s bounce proper in with Tero.

Tero, welcome, thanks for being right here once more.

Tero: Thanks for having me on. It’s at all times a pleasure, particularly now in these wild, wild instances that we’re residing in.

Katie: It has gotten slightly wild. I undoubtedly know we each need to discuss that slightly bit right now and there’s definitely loads which you can share on quite a lot of totally different facets of this. However to begin off, what I used to be initially bringing you on to speak about right now earlier than issues bought slightly wild all through the nation is you may have not too long ago launched a skincare line by way of Four Sigmatic and I’ve additionally been in growth within the private care world for my toothpaste and shampoo and have accomplished quite a lot of analysis on this world over the past 12 months, and in order that’s a extremely essential subject to cowl. And I do know that we are going to truly tie this into immunity and to another subjects which can be very high of thoughts right now. However to begin, I’d love to listen to about what went into the event of your skincare merchandise, and to the purpose that, from my understanding, they’re truly even not simply okay to eat however truly totally edible. So discuss that and the way that took place.

Tero: Yeah, we launched our skincare line earlier this 12 months and it’s been a wild journey. It took place loads by way of shopper suggestions, so quite a lot of our clients and neighborhood was asking for skincare merchandise. They learn in my guide and different sources how mushrooms and adaptogens might help with pores and skin they usually’d seen it in different skincare merchandise extra that use mushrooms or adaptogens that in any other case may need not been fairly as clear. And so quite a lot of shopper suggestions and simply studying from, significantly, the Korean and Japanese cultures, magnificence worlds, and the way a few of these mushrooms might help enhance pores and skin high quality.

And the issue with me was that I don’t actually use skincare and I take advantage of like ultra-pure private care merchandise as properly that had been exhausting to search out and there’s not a product on the market that match my private high quality requirements. And I wished extra transparency, I wished extra of actual meals elements and that type of impressed us to launch our first skincare merchandise which can be additionally totally edible. So a face masks that can be scorching chocolate utilizing actually easy elements like cacao, spices, mushrooms, adaptogens however it’s also possible to put it in your pores and skin.

Katie: I really like that. I’m very a lot on the identical web page with you about that and I believe most individuals have a passing understanding that what we put on our our bodies will get into our our bodies to some extent however I believe individuals don’t essentially at all times understand the extent to which once we put dangerous issues on our pores and skin, quite a lot of that does truly enter the bloodstream, it does enter our physique, and likewise adjustments our pores and skin microbiome and might impression even by way of that our intestine microbiome and every kind of issues down the highway. So let’s discuss a number of the frequent issues individuals must know and keep away from in the case of conventional skincare merchandise.

Tero: Yeah, simply to construct off of that, I believe lots of people, like, vaguely know that what will get put in your pores and skin will get into your bloodstream, however such as you mentioned, they don’t understand the extent, which to me is slightly stunning as a result of once we purchase a nicotine patch or one thing, the nicotine does go into our bloodstream. So we don’t assume that these plastics and different harsh chemical substances will enter our bloodstream as properly, that’s type of, to me, slightly stunning. So one is simply getting actual good understanding is that a large a part of issues that we put in our pores and skin will enter our bloodstream to the extent that in the event you swim in beer, you get drunk. When you take a shower with magnesium or Epsom salt, you’ll get that into your bloodstream and chill out. And we simply don’t take that into consideration. And lots of people say that, properly, it’s only a small quantity, however that small quantity every single day a number of instances builds up so whenever you use a toothpaste or a skincare serum on a day by day foundation, if not twice a day, then that’s going to have an enormous, type of, compounding impact. In order that’s clearly a fantastic start line.

The opposite factor is I believe understanding the business is admittedly invaluable. We purchase actually costly skincare merchandise and likewise private care merchandise, realizing how a lot does it truly price to make them? And that is all public info however in the event you go to L’Oreal and Estee Lauder’s web site, you understand that they spend 3% to 4% of their gross sales on the precise product. So it’s quite common that you simply purchase a $100 skincare product the place it solely prices $1 what’s contained in the bottle after which $2 to $4 on packaging and the remaining is simply margin. All these fancy adverts that they do and fashions they pay and opulent way of life, that’s paid by promoting you $1 of worth for $100 of price, and I believe that’s additionally fairly unhappy and irritating. So these is perhaps two good issues to consider whenever you usually method skincare and different, type of, magnificence and luxurious merchandise.

Katie: I agree, and what I discovered actually attention-grabbing as I began researching this world as properly is that you simply’re proper, individuals don’t actually acknowledge simply how a lot can enter our physique from the skin, however on the similar time typically will take a look at any type of pores and skin drawback as a purely exterior drawback. So if it’s zits, they assume they should deal with it simply with one thing topical on the pores and skin they usually don’t assume by way of the truth that…and we now know from the analysis a lot of that’s truly inside. Any pores and skin drawback is originating within the physique someplace and we’re simply seeing it on the pores and skin as an outward expression of that. So let’s additionally speak in regards to the diet and inside facet of how we will enhance our pores and skin from the within out as properly.

Tero: Sure. So sure, it will begin with what pores and skin is and what does it do? So pores and skin is our largest organ and it’s constructed from cells like anything. So in the event you dwell wholesome or unhealthy and what’s the standard of your mitochondria and your cells will impression together with your pores and skin. It’s only a distinction between topical skincare and ingestible skincare, ingestible magnificence is the timeframe. Skin doesn’t rejuvenate itself every single day. Relying on how previous you might be, it may take anyplace from 20 to 40 days, and even longer in the event you’re older. So whenever you eat for magnificence and have a nutritious diet, that basically helps you long-term versus topical skincare can resolve an issue right now, and like many different types of well being, we’re typically drawn to the fast fast repair, proper, and that’s type of a bummer.

However topical skincare might help with, I might say, the signs, however if you wish to work on the trigger, you need to have a wholesome physique, wholesome cells. That additionally signifies that when you may have a wholesome physique, wholesome cells, wholesome pores and skin, you want much less product and the product works higher. So consuming for pores and skin is so so essential, and there are particular vitamins which can be significantly good for the pores and skin in the event you consider what the pores and skin does. I believe you already partially touched upon it, however the aesthetic factor of the pores and skin is only one of just about, I might say, 7, eight capabilities of the pores and skin, you possibly can even prolong it to 10 totally different capabilities the pores and skin does, and the aesthetic half is only one.

Our pores and skin will contact, it should defend us from temperature adjustments, it should defend our absorption of vitamins, even oxygen. Individuals don’t know however the pores and skin absorbs oxygen. However the huge factor, I believe, to me, is safety. So there’s immunity on our pores and skin. In addition to being the primary barrier in opposition to pathogens, it’s additionally the place quite a lot of our immunity lives. We’ll at all times have micro organism, so if you’re terrified of micro organism, it’s simply good to know that regardless of how a lot you scrub your pores and skin with this coronavirus, with cleaning soap or others, there’ll at all times be micro organism on your pores and skin. you possibly can by no means out-scrub your micro organism. And wherever there’s micro organism, there’s additionally going to be mushrooms.

You already know, you may have your microbiome, additionally which is your mushroom biome, and never simply your intestine biome. So each your intestine and your pores and skin will at all times have micro organism and at all times have mushrooms. It’s simply the query turns into what sort of micro organism and what sort of mushrooms does your pores and skin have and are they supporting your immunity and your aesthetic operate or are they hurting your immunity and aesthetic operate? So it’s simply crucial to know that topical skincare might help short-term however with a view to have long-term good pores and skin, you want this ingestible magnificence and also you wanted to know that regardless of how a lot you scrub your pores and skin, there’ll at all times be micro organism and mushrooms in it and that with sure sorts of vitamins, you possibly can assist your pores and skin additionally internally in addition to externally.

Katie: Yeah, completely. I believe, on the finish of the day, that’s the important thing, it’s not both/or, it’s each and at all times. And I believe that I observed that once I was a teen and I struggled with zits, I attempted to deal with it topically for a very long time and it wasn’t till I addressed issues like intestine well being and all the inner components associated to well being did that totally resolve itself. So I’m curious, each on a private degree and I do know that you simply do quite a lot of analysis on this space in your merchandise, what ought to we be consuming for good, pores and skin what ought to we be avoiding for the sake of our pores and skin and our total well being, and the way does that work, like what does your precise routine seem like for that?

Tero: Yeah, I imply the unhealthy information is that it’s important to take quite a lot of issues into consideration. The excellent news is that the identical issues that you simply take into accounts to having lovely pores and skin are additionally the stuff you take into accounts to have normal longevity, have immunity, have robust cognitive operate. So all of those are very a lot linked. I discussed one of many issues that it’s important to take into accounts is your intestine biome and your microbiome. So your intestine well being, that’s extremely essential. And this may go each methods. This may be eradicating issues out of your weight loss plan that is perhaps dangerous in your intestine in addition to including issues like probiotics, prebiotics, good micro organism, good mushrooms into your weight loss plan. So intestine well being is certainly one main consider pores and skin well being.

The opposite one is irritation, and I might even say irritation/stress. Your pores and skin might be every kind of…have irritation/stress infections, rashes, and calming down the physique total is admittedly invaluable. On the finish of the day, in all probability the very best factor you are able to do in your pores and skin is sleep. The most effective factor for something in your well being might be sleep. So simply sustaining wholesome stress ranges and type of combating off irritation, and the intestine well being is clearly very linked to that irritation, as you properly know. The second can be stress. It’s very invaluable.

After which lastly, any sorts of antioxidants, significantly sure sorts of polyphenols which you can…and sure shade pigments are significantly good for the pores and skin. So we will deep dive on what can be these meals that might be actually good in your pores and skin. However to summarize, intestine well being, stress administration/irritation, and antioxidants, these can be simply three, type of, key issues I might be mindful when consuming in your pores and skin.

Katie: Bought it. I really like that. And yeah, we will undoubtedly go into extra specifics inside every of these classes. And I believe this dovetails completely with an space that I need to discuss and I’m so glad I get to speak about with you, which fits alongside hand-in-hand with this, and that’s immunity. And anyone listening to this, I do know there’s quite a lot of discuss that proper now and there’s quite a lot of, I believe, in all probability overwhelmed and a few worry going on. And also you’re one in all my favourite individuals to speak to about this as a result of I do know that you simply come from a really level-headed place and a well-researched place and that you simply’re not going to buy-in to all the worry, however you’re additionally in all probability taking a really sensible and research-backed method. So I’d like to type of dovetail this now into the realm of immunity and the way we will all use sure practical meals and merchandise to help our immune programs throughout this time.

Tero: Yeah, once more, taking the 10,000 meals perspective first is that immunity, sadly, isn’t high of thoughts for lots of people, even actually wholesome individuals. They are saying that no person buys an umbrella until it’s raining and that very same goes for immunity as properly. So only a few individuals focus on immunity until it’s the “immune season,” which suggests the flu season. So lots of people are centered on the flu season. And let’s be trustworthy, lots of people die of the flu each single 12 months. However the immunity doesn’t take breaks. The immunity doesn’t know that there’s an immune season. It’s simply one thing it’s best to take into accounts on a regular basis and never simply due to staying wholesome but in addition as a result of the immune operate is a lot linked with different areas of our life, together with the pores and skin and cognitive operate.

However again to the immune operate, you should have this inside safety system that begins along with your pores and skin. However you should have these inside safety officers in your physique, pure killer cells, cytokines, white blood cells, they usually’re there to guard you. And make little question about it, every single day there shall be intruders in your physique. There is no such thing as a approach to, like, defend your self even in the event you’re in quarantine of all pathogens. Like, there’ll at all times be pathogens making an attempt to enter your physique and every single day your physique is combating off, that by no means ends. Positive, at instances, these intruders is perhaps stronger and may require extra of resistance out of your physique, and in case your inside safety is low, you may get the flu or a cough or extended in individuals with poor immune programs they usually is perhaps slightly extra delicate to issues like most cancers.

There’s additionally one other factor of that is that in case your immune system is hyperactive versus passive, it signifies that your physique is so actively making an attempt to battle off that it might probably’t even battle off wholesome cells and issues that aren’t intruders. That is when allergy symptoms and autoimmune issues can actually construct up. So our immune system is kind of sophisticated and clever however at instances it’s both passive or hyperactive and that’s when the day by day battle in opposition to these pathogens can get actually troublesome. So, subsequently, you need to be feeding your immune system on an ongoing foundation with good things. I discussed intestine well being being fairly very important for it and for that motive, like not being afraid of micro organism on mushrooms however understanding that these will at all times be a part of your self and simply having good micro organism mushrooms, which type of takes us to the options.

Like, what are you able to do to enhance immunity? Effectively, once more, it’s what you don’t do and what you do. What you don’t do might be feed off your physique with processed meals, sugars, and customary allergens. These may not be the very best factor in your physique versus what’s wonderful is issues that feed the immune system. And clearly, my huge ardour is mushrooms and these mushrooms have these specific sorts of polysaccharides, significantly these beta-D-glucans which can be among the many most studied issues for immunity they usually have these immunomodulatory advantages which can be in a position to modulate the immune system both extra energetic or extra passive relying on your physique is at want. You too can discover these beta-D-glucans in small quantities in issues like oats and sure berries like goji berries however they’re probably the most prevalent in these mushrooms.

After which the opposite factor is prebiotics, so good fibers into your physique will feed off in your intestine, the great sorts of micro organism and fungi. So including fibers and prebiotics and including these mushroom extracts into your weight loss plan is without doubt one of the greatest methods. On high of that, there’s extra seasonal options that you simply may need to take into account if you understand that you simply’re more likely to get, within the flu season, hit slightly more durable reminiscent of excessive dose of vitamin C, sure minerals reminiscent of zinc. However you bought to watch out with sure vitamins which can be promoted for immune operate reminiscent of echinacea, even garlic. When you eat them on an ongoing foundation, they’re immunostimulants, they stimulate the immune system, however in the event you use them on a protracted foundation, your immune system may get overstimulated. So that you need to search for each seasonal options that may work nice for a number of months of the 12 months. You additionally need to be conscious, which a type of you need to use year-round, and mushrooms are nice simply because these reishi mushrooms, and shiitakes, and chagas, you possibly can eat year-round.

Katie: That’s a fantastic level. Yeah, I’m an enormous fan of biking most dietary supplements for that motive of not letting the physique ever adapt to it and since then they’ll have reverse penalties, such as you mentioned, in some unspecified time in the future and I really like that mushrooms are one of many ones that we will safely eat every single day, and I definitely do. I do know that you simply do in addition to. Are there any particular suggestions in the case of mushrooms that you simply’re particularly centered on proper now simply within the curiosity of supporting your physique and your immune system?

Tero: Yeah, I might take a look at these mushroom polysaccharides and beta-D-glucans like chlorophyll. You in all probability need to eat chlorophyll on a day by day foundation into your physique, but it surely doesn’t imply you eat spinach every single day. You in all probability need to have arugula, you in all probability need to have nettle or dandelion. You need to, type of, rotate the sorts of chlorophylls that you simply’re consuming the identical approach you need to in all probability rotate slightly bit of those mushrooms. However for the sake of immunity functions alone, all the highest mushrooms have these beta-D-glucans for immunomodulatory functions, but when there may be one famous person for immunity significantly, it’s the chaga mushroom, C-H-A-G-A, and it’s getting quite a lot of consideration now contemplating the place the world is on simply the distinctive capabilities that that chaga mushroom has after which its potential to help the immune system.

So if individuals are in search of options for immunity, I both advocate a mix of a number of mushrooms, you understand, anyplace from like 5 to 10 of the highest mushrooms in extract kind, so attempt to discover merchandise which have a fruiting physique, which can be extracted, they usually’re natural, these can be the three high quality components, and taking a mix of 5 to 10 mushrooms day by day. Or in the event you actually need to have a bazooka impact for immune system, then I might actually search for chaga mushroom significantly, like a excessive dose, over 1000 mg of wildcrafted chaga extract would in all probability be an answer I might take into account, and mixing that with a excessive dose of vitamin C, each for absorption of the actives within the mushroom but in addition normal immune help. So that might be my beneficial protocol.

Katie: I like it. And I do know additionally that you simply dwell a really holistic life and focus on quite a lot of different components as properly. So separate of simply meals and dietary supplements and issues that we should always undoubtedly all be centered on, I’m curious if there’s another issues you might be altering or optimizing proper now? For example, I’m ensuring that we’re spending time open air and getting motion every single day, which we do anyway, however ensuring that’s a spotlight, similar with daylight, correct hydration, sauna use, which after all, I do know that you simply’re additionally an enormous fan of. Are there different issues that you simply’re ramping up or implementing proper now?

Tero: Yeah, I believe this can be a nice level. I believe once we journey, for instance, we frequently don’t modify our conduct regardless that our exterior world is altering. So we now have this factor the place quite a lot of us don’t have a seasonal routine. We at all times type of attempt to dwell year-round in an analogous approach, and I don’t assume that’s actually the best. Clearly, you visited Finland, you see how the variations within the winter and summer time. So we now have to dwell seasonally and I take a look at this can be a lovely factor even when I don’t should right now. So I strive to take a look at the exterior world and likewise my inside schedule is like, how is my inside schedule and the way do I want to regulate my conduct? And proper now, clearly, the exterior world has gone the wrong way up and issues like immunity are at a better worth. So I’m making an attempt to regulate my conduct to extra be in step with the place the world is true now and the way is my day by day routine?

So there’s sure issues I do on a regular basis reminiscent of resting to creating certain that I’m not overly stressing my physique anyway, so perhaps additional sleep or a nap is one thing very invaluable proper now to not…When you push your physique too exhausting, you might be additionally placing your immunity in jeopardy extra. So additional relaxation is one thing I’m conscious of. You talked about the opposite one, which is sweating within the type of motion and within the type of sauna can be fairly, fairly invaluable proper now. In order that’s one other approach how one can take away toxins but in addition help the physique with this lovely type of comfortable hormetic stressors. In order that’s one thing I might be extra conscious of now. Individuals love to remain indoors on this present scenario, which is smart, however simply so you understand that even the cleanest indoor air won’t be higher than exterior air. So having perhaps your home windows open, doorways open, going for a stroll, no matter you are able to do to get recent air is especially invaluable. So even well-purified indoor air will in all probability at all times lose to exterior air. So these are issues that I undoubtedly be mindful.

The opposite factor that I’ve been actually ramping up is spices. I believe spices are a number of the most underrated issues in well being and wellness, plus they typically style nice. They’re one thing that everyone can afford, no matter your funds is, take excessive quantities of spices. They’re good in your intestine well being. In addition they include these like fairly immune-supporting advantages. So ramping up ginger, turmeric, cinnamon, cardamon, clove, they’re fairly protecting of the physique, and discovering methods how one can begin including spices to day by day life is without doubt one of the best methods. And proper now, within the winter, I anyway add extra spices however given the scenario, I’m identical to doubling down on increasingly spices and varied peppers is perhaps one thing enjoyable to experiment with. If you wish to type of get loopy, varied type of spicy, scorching peppers is perhaps one thing price exploring.

After which yeah, I’m simply doubling down on my adaptogen mushroom utilization proper now on high of that. However having that seasonal outlook in life, typically, might be going to serve you properly, not making an attempt to dwell on a regular basis the identical approach and having braveness to go over regular dosages. So no matter is your dosage in vitamin D or vitamin C, this is perhaps a time whenever you go over these regular suggestions and having the braveness…particularly with these water-soluble nutritional vitamins, having the braveness to take greater dosages.

Katie: Yeah, I completely agree. Even issues like vitamin D, I do know usually, I might advocate getting that examined, which is perhaps troublesome to do with all the present issues going on, or there is perhaps a delay in getting examined however we all know from the analysis, as an example, that if in case you have low vitamin D ranges in your physique, you’re truly extra in danger for respiratory issues and every kind of issues. And in order that’s one which I’ve been giving my household simply to ensure all of our vitamin D ranges are in good ranges as a result of proper now, we’re not getting as a lot solar as we’d be in the summertime months. Such as you mentioned, similar with vitamin C, there’s some actually robust knowledge on that for the immune system and that’s one thing that’s water-soluble that we will all improve at instances like this.

I additionally love that you simply’ve touched on the mindset facet as a result of I believe that’s an space that hopefully we’re all working to optimize our diets and our sleep is a big one, such as you mentioned, issues like that. But when we’re additionally residing in a state of sympathetic nervous system as a result of we’re overwhelmed and fearful and panicking, that’s additionally actually not good for the immune system and I believe that’s one factor that’s on my thoughts a lot proper now could be simply the thought, that encouragement of taking a deep breath, nonetheless having gratitude, nonetheless discovering calm, nonetheless focusing on those who we love and neighborhood and mindset even when the following few weeks proceed to get slightly bit loopy however retaining these issues, supporting one another inside no matter approach we’re in a position to at this level, and simply nonetheless focusing on the gratitude and the great. And I do know that’s typically your mindset as properly and that you simply proceed to stay in a constructive mindset by way of this as properly. Any mindset ideas as we face all this uncertainty proper now?

Tero: Yeah, truly, a good friend of mine was asking like, “How are you so calm on this complete scenario?” Like, I’m going to get to the massages at some Asian therapeutic massage place, and he was like, “How are you so calm about it?” And I used to be saying, properly, A, I maintain my immunity on a regular basis so I really feel fairly assured about that half. The opposite half is I do know that just like the significance of your thoughts and the way that additionally impacts your physiology, for instance, your endocrine system in the event you’re continually in a mode of worry, in battle or flight, how that really decreases sleep high quality, hurts your immunity. So there’s a compounding impact of the thoughts that impacts our stress, sleep, and immunity, in order that’s why I believe it’s so, so invaluable.

And simply to make it ultra-specific is, for instance, individuals are proper now obsessive about washing their palms and significantly hand sanitizers. And I believe this may probably backfire in the event you overdo this. To not say that good hygiene isn’t essential, it’s, however in the event you’re continually sanitizing your palms with harsh alcohol or hand sanitizers, it might probably have a reasonably large impression on your pores and skin and your biome on your pores and skin, and that’s why I believe, like, cleaning soap is so wonderful due to these, type of, like, friendlier fat to our pores and skin and utilizing fat, typically, is an effective tip in these troublesome instances. Simply the fixed fear about washing your palms will double down on cortisol that may additional then harm your sleep high quality, and poor sleep high quality will decrease your immunity. It’s a vicious circle.

So I believe this second is a good alternative to apply your Zen conduct and apply issues like gratitude turns into much more essential. So when issues are loopy and looks as if it’s been a tough 2020 to date, what are you able to do to be grateful, what are you able to be grateful of? And discovering these moments of magnificence in your life proper now, after which in the event you’re actually burdened, including apply like meditation, or what I really like is chilly publicity and breathwork. So perhaps a breathwork session can truly assist mitigate a few of that stress that you’ve. However simply so you understand is that taking precautions is wise however stressing about it will harm you greater than helps you.

So this can be a nice time to search out gratitude and pleasure and wonder round you and to not dwell on worry that a lot. And it’s clearly simpler mentioned than accomplished and there’s quite a lot of considerations about us, our well being, and our family members, however figuring out that management what you possibly can management and also you don’t at all times management what occurs round you however you management the response it has on you. That’s simply one thing each will assist, and likewise happiness, it’s good to be conscious and meditate slightly bit on.

Katie: I completely agree. I’m an enormous fan of quite a lot of the stoic philosophers and a phrase that comes up loads with them is “amor fati,” which suggests mainly love your destiny or love what’s, and I believe that’s straightforward to do when issues are straightforward or good or affluent or instances are straightforward, and I believe that’s much more essential to do at instances like this when issues are unsure or appear loopy or uncontrolled. And in order that’s been one thing I’ve tried to focus on. I really like your tips on respiratory and meditation and chilly publicity. Actually, I do know not everybody has entry to saunas or chilly plunges however you are able to do quite a lot of that at house in your bathe and your bathtub, and respiratory we will all do in all places.

And identical to you mentioned, focus on retaining stress ranges down and retaining focus on the constructive. I believe that goes such a great distance towards staying wholesome and never panicking and realizing that for many individuals who even when we get the virus, hopefully, it might be very uncomfortable however our immune system will be capable to deal with it, particularly if we will optimize all these components. Such as you mentioned, relaxation, get daylight, get methods to help our immune system. Till then, I do know that at the same time as an organization, you guys are ensuring that you simply’re maintaining with merchandise and getting issues out to individuals, all of those immune-supporting merchandise that you simply guys carry. So for anybody who’s new to you guys or to your merchandise, the place would you advocate them beginning, particularly proper now with all of this going on, with making an attempt mushroom merchandise?

Tero: Yeah. So for me, the large factor has at all times been compliance. Well being and wellness, each you and I in all probability do 17 issues each hour for our well being, proper? I do know whenever you journey, you’re slightly pharmacy your self with all these dietary supplements. And if someone who’s new to it seems to be at that, that may really feel very overwhelming, you’re like, “Wow, that’s quite a lot of stuff you do,” and it doesn’t should be sophisticated. So there may be an 80-20 rule to well being and wellness as properly and we do the remaining as a result of we dwell the life-style, we take pleasure in it. But when there’s some issues the place you begin…I at all times advocate first upgrading an present ritual versus making an attempt to invent a brand new ritual, and it’s only a extra sustainable approach of enhancing and upgrading your well being and wellness.

So for us, an enormous a part of the place most individuals begin is our espresso merchandise that additionally embrace, by the way in which, the chaga mushroom that I discussed for immunity. So taking a mushroom espresso, both an instantaneous espresso or floor espresso format might be the place most individuals begin. The mushroom espresso provides you a traditional espresso expertise that tastes just like your cup of espresso but it surely doesn’t provide the jitters or the heartburn. It’s type of extra comfy in your intestine. After which on high of it, with out even interested by it, you get this immune help on high of the deal. When you don’t drink espresso, we additionally make issues like scorching chocolate, that is perhaps a very good start line.

And we simply try to take issues like skincare, protein powders, different issues that you simply may already be doing in your well being and attempt to discover methods how you can make it cleaner and higher for you, you understand, not that totally different from what you might be constructing on the private care facet. It’s like, okay, you’re going to brush your tooth anyway, let’s just remember to’re doing that in a acutely aware approach, and the identical what we’re doing with espresso, tea, cocoa, protein, skincare is simply making an attempt to improve your present merchandise and rituals by containing the world’s most nutrient-dense, you understand, elements and not one of the dangerous, unhealthy issues that always get included in these merchandise that aren’t needed. In order that’s, type of, it. So espresso is, for most individuals, the place to begin or one thing like a morning smoothie with our protein powder.

Katie: I like it. And I ought to have talked about it earlier within the episode, however I do have a particular touchdown web page with you guys at foursigmatic.com/wellnessmama and I do know you’ve additionally graciously given us a reduction code, wellnessmama, to save lots of 15%. And like I discussed, these are merchandise which can be very a lot a part of my day by day routine and a part of my life and my household’s life often so I’m an enormous fan of the lion’s mane espresso within the morning and I do this many mornings, or your matcha, after which all through the day, particularly proper now, I’m loading up on the chaga and cordyceps and lion’s mane, after which virtually each night earlier than mattress, my husband I drink reishi collectively.

So I really feel like not simply are we pals however you might be, by way of your organization, so, a lot part of my day by day life and I’m grateful to have entry to those merchandise, proper now particularly, with the added focus on immune help.

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Let’s loop again to the skincare just a bit bit earlier than we wrap up as a result of I do know lots of people that these are new merchandise for you guys, lots of people could not have tried them but. So simply stroll us by way of the merchandise that you’ve and the way they work.

Tero: Yeah, so we launched our first three merchandise. We have now a superfood serum that provides you further glow. We use actual fruits which can be anyway good for pores and skin internally and externally reminiscent of olive oil and avocado oil. So once more, fat are your good friend each internally and topically. So if you wish to get that, you understand, island pores and skin, avocado is a good supply, that Mediterranean pores and skin, olive has been used for a very long time, after which we add good oils such a grapefruit, frankincense, and there’s no preservatives so we use pure issues like honeysuckle and the frankincense to offer stability to the product. So a serum, which is a reasonably inexpensive natural serum, $55 for a bottle, and it is available in Miron glass, all our merchandise are available in Miron glass. When you’re not conversant in Miron glass, it’s like the very best glass to forestall daylight from getting into it. So whenever you use these good oils, it’s essential to be sure that daylight doesn’t penetrate or oxidize these. However the serum might be the place most individuals begin on the skincare facet.

We even have a face masks that I discussed, but it surely additionally doubles as a scorching chocolate. It’s a powdered face masks that purifies the pores and skin. It accommodates these mushrooms like chaga and reishi, adaptogens like ashwagandha and gotu kola, and it is available in these handy particular person packets, you possibly can simply simply journey with them or on the go, simply add slightly little bit of water, put it on your face. And it’s also possible to eat it and it tastes like brownie batter. Nevertheless it’s full of fantastic cleaning issues like ashwagandha, reishi, but in addition bentonite clay that’s type of cooling but cleaning for the pores and skin.

After which we now have a physique butter, which is the Swiss military knife of our skincare merchandise at this level. So you need to use that on your nails and your hair. Once more, it is available in Miron glass and it makes use of issues like cacao, like type of natural plant butters and oils, so simply cacao butter. It has natural mango seed butter, which is wonderful. Once more, olive oil, walnut oil, so these wholesome fatty acids is one thing your pores and skin can use and what’s cool in regards to the physique butter is which you can additionally…I take advantage of it once I journey to make a butter espresso. So I simply take slightly little bit of my physique butter and put in a cup and revenue. So these are actually so clear which you can eat them. They’re meant topically however if you wish to put them in your physique, they’re made out of meals.

Katie: I like it. I really like that. I’ve tried all of them they usually’re superior and I undoubtedly would advocate them. I’m, such as you, an enormous fan of not placing something on your physique that you simply wouldn’t be keen to eat or put in your physique, and that was my focus with the toothpaste and hair care as properly. So I’ll make sure that there are hyperlinks to all the pieces we’ve talked about within the present notes at wellnesmama.fm. And naturally, in the event you’re listening, the hyperlink shall be there but in addition make sure that to take a look at foursigmatic.com/wellnessmama to get the low cost on any of those merchandise. I simply stocked majorly up on a number of months’ price of all of them in case we want additional, and it’s exhausting to get them so I’m properly stocked and I might encourage you guys too as properly. However Tero, thanks for the time right now and for all of the work you set into these merchandise and into schooling and into simply spreading positivity on this planet.

Tero: Thanks, Katie, and thanks for having me on, and thanks for additionally doing the schooling work you do. I come throughout individuals on a regular basis who comply with you and mentioned you’ve made an impression on their life and clearly, it’s a really troublesome and anxious time so taking a typical sense method to well being, wellness, and immunity is so invaluable. So thanks for the work you do as properly.

Katie: Effectively, thanks. And because of all of you for listening and for becoming a member of us right now. We’re so grateful that you simply did and we’re grateful for you sharing your most beneficial asset, which is your time, and I hope that you simply all keep wholesome and protected and calm throughout this loopy time and I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode of the “Wellness Mama” podcast.

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