Nonetheless, Travis later shared his regrets for lacking one delicate second at the live performance—the high-five with Taylor’s dad.

“You had been so shocked,” Jason recounted to his brother through the Nov. 15 episode of their New Heights podcast, “you left Scott hanging.”

“Yeah, Mr. Swift, I apologize, large man,” Travis replied. “Oh man, I missed that. I by no means miss a excessive 5, too. It is probably the most electrical factor you are able to do at an occasion.”