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Hi there and welcome to the Wellness Mama podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and I’m again for spherical two with Masami Covey, who’s a health-intuitive and practical dietary therapist who leads ladies in rediscovering the knowledge of the lunar cycles, which we speak about on this episode and particularly past menopause via a mix of Japanese drugs, science, and medical modalities. And she or he works in each personal periods and group lessons to disclose the basis causes of imbalance by utilizing her intuitive insights, medical expertise, and scientific evaluation. She additionally was born and raised in Japan in a bicultural household and has a very distinctive East meets West perspective within the work that she does. And also you’ll see that on this fascinating episode that basically talks about lunar rhythms and ladies’s well being. It’s particularly menopause and post-menopause, but additionally how this pertains to youngsters, males, and menstruating ladies as properly. So let’s leap in and be taught. Welcome again. Thanks for being right here once more. I’m so excited to be taught extra from you.

Masami: Thanks. I’m excited to maintain going with this glorious subject.

Katie: And for anyone who hasn’t listened, I extremely advocate our first episode as properly, the place we set up quite a lot of the background for among the matters we’re speaking about right this moment. And on this episode, I’m excited to dive a bit of deeper into form of sensible methods we are able to actually be taught to get extra in tune with the lunar cycles. As a result of as you stated within the first episode, quite a lot of us are possibly extra conscious of the photo voltaic influence of sunshine. And fortunately, lots of people at the moment are conscious of how essential morning daylight is, as an illustration, or how a lot we’d like the solar generally. However I really like that you just deliver a lot data and consciousness to the lunar cycles as properly, which I really feel like are simply not as properly understood, not less than within the US, such as you talked about within the first episode. So to construct on what we talked about in our first episode collectively, I’d love to simply contact on a bit of bit extra of the hormone facet. And particularly for the ladies listening, if there’s any variations or similarities to concentrate on, or possibly youngsters who haven’t gone via puberty but versus ladies who’re menstruating versus ladies within the perimenopause and postmenopause ages.

Masami: Yeah, so, , I believe the rule of thumb is that we do have these cycles. And as we’re including extra gentle to the moon, so the waxing moon, there may be this like a buildup of extra vitality. Extra of like desirous to be exploring the surface world and issues like that. And there’s a connection to estrogen buildup in that as a result of estrogen is like, let’s get artistic and let’s be outwardly expressive. Estrogen is what builds up the boldness and estrogen is constructed is, , actually related to build up who you’re as an expression outwardly. So there may be that connection, it doesn’t matter what age you’re, whether or not you aren’t menstruating or whether or not you’re in postmenopause or, , you’re within the menstrual cycles, remember that as we’re including extra gentle to the moon, you’re going to have this tendencies to wish to discover the surface world.

And that is when the oxytocin is fluctuating too, however the oxytocin will lead like construct up main as much as the total moon. So we do produce extra oxytocin from the primary quarter moon to the total moon. In order that’s actually attention-grabbing, proper? That when that occurs, you may change into with the oxytocin build up and estrogen and the moon beginning to gentle up, we’d wish to change into a bit of extra social and you wish to have interaction extra with the each other within the teams. And it’s a superb time to possibly have interaction together with your children, particularly youngsters that say, mother, don’t speak to me, , or they produce other issues that they wish to do a lot moderately. May be, this can be a good time, particularly from the primary quarter moon to the total moon. This may very well be the time that the, possibly your daughter’s like focused on speaking to you, or possibly your teenage son’s going to return to the kitchen and say, hey, what are you making? You recognize? And then you definitely may end up a bit of bit perplexed as a result of like final week, this child was not focused on talking to you in any respect.

However , because the oxytocin goes up, the estrogen goes up in boys and ladies. I imply, we’re producing, we’re producing estrogen all all through our lives anyway. So there’s that possibly encourage ourselves and children locally to be variety to others. Perhaps outwardly doing issues, sharing compliments with each other. Perhaps that is the time that you may cook dinner collectively. And, , clearly having little extra connections, bodily connections, since you’re going to wish to hug folks. That is while you wish to be together with your pets and issues like that.

However the reverse is true. Additionally, the numerous lower on the manufacturing of oxytocin occurs from little after full moon and main as much as the brand new moon, possibly a bit of earlier than new moon. That final interval of the brand new moon can also be known as the darkish moon interval. So it’s a bit of bit totally different at the moment. However let’s say proper after the total moon into third quarter moon space that point, when the progesterone tends to be up, you wish to bear in mind, and then progesterone manufacturing does lower as we become older. However I additionally encourage the postmenopausal ladies to know that you just’re nonetheless producing these hormones. So don’t abandon them and nonetheless proceed to help that as if you’re having these productions, it may be rather less for sure ages, a bit of bit extra for others.

However progesterone is generally, I name them the Zen backyard hormones. So it makes you type of calm. You recognize, I’m from Japan. So I all the time consider a Zen backyard and that sipping on a bit of little bit of tea, that’s type of factor. And that’s not the time that I wish to be doing a bunch of outwardly issues. However , faculty methods, the federal government, the companies, we don’t actually reside with this ebb and circulate. So that you may wrestle a bit of bit throughout this time that you just’re requested to do shows, you’re requested to be on the committee the place you’re with different folks, however guarantee that that is the time that you just create some self-acknowledgements. After which through the waning section of the moon, perform a little bit extra of a shallowness observe. That may be totally different from individual to individual, however this can be a nice time to include a bit of bit extra of like taking baths, , in actually clear water and including a bit of little bit of magnesium flakes or Epsom salts, and even possibly some important oils to type of create that self-love.

And through this time, I see it just about all throughout the board, possibly not with a really, very younger children as a result of they’re nonetheless, they do produce quite a lot of progesterone. In order that’s why they sleep so much, proper? However that is the time in while you’re waning the moon. That is when our our bodies get a bit of bit drier. So that you may expertise like drier eyes, drier hair, drier pores and skin. So that is while you may wish to add a bit of little bit of oils as a part of your routine and placing oils like sesame oils, fantastic. It’s a impartial oil in Ayurvedic research. So in a few of you could not know Ayurveda very properly, however we now have this stuff known as doshas, that are physique structure. So we now have totally different expressions of our our bodies, however sesame oil is usually a very impartial oil for everyone to make use of. So you’ll be able to therapeutic massage the underside of your toes with it, possibly your stomach space with it. And, , I encourage all of us when the moon is waning and the progesterone manufacturing is definitely going as much as do some Zen-like issues, possibly a bit of extra sitting down meditations. Perhaps this isn’t the time to be doing strolling meditations and, , possibly group meditations, but it surely’s one thing that provides you relaxations. It may very well be listening to music that soothes you. Perhaps spend a while cooking nourishing meals for your self.

And that is the time that each one of us type of need consolation meals, simply so that you’re conscious. So be okay with that. You recognize, if you happen to or your children or your loved ones members like, mother, please make me some gluten free, , macaroni and cheese. You recognize what? Perhaps that’s okay throughout this time. And since you’re going to wish that gasoline to sleep via the night time a bit of bit longer since you’re going to be sleeping a bit of bit longer throughout this waning moon interval.

So, and know that oxytocin has a really brief life and oxytocin actually is essential for balancing your cortisol. And your insulin degree as properly. And I stated it earlier, however that’s going to additionally assist together with your hormone balances. I imply, intercourse hormones that we’re speaking about. So just remember to know the right way to replenish your brief life oxytocin at a unique moon phases. And to, , summarize, exit and discover and be extra social as the sunshine is growing on the moon. And possibly as the sunshine is reducing, you continue to want oxytocin for balancing of your hormones. Then possibly encourage your self to do issues which are extra inwardly reflective. And that goes into, , heading into the darkish moon. We actually want to alter our behaviors. I do assume that if you happen to’re homeschooling mothers through the darkish moon section, which is in regards to the final week earlier than you head to the brand new moon actually emphasize like reviewing what the youngsters discovered and possibly remembering sure issues, speak about recollections and have some reflective time. So I can say extra there, however I’ll pause for a second.

Katie: So many cool suggestions that you just introduced up in that. And I really like the advice of sesame oil for the pores and skin. I’ll say that I hold it truly in my bathe as properly to make use of for oil pulling once I’m within the bathe as a result of it’s a impartial oil. And I consider there’s advantages to that in different traditions as properly. I additionally love that the best way you tied this in and the hormones altering that, , there’s quite a lot of speak of girls’s month-to-month cycles and them being on a extra month-to-month form of cyclical foundation and the hormones that go up and down all through the course of a month. And I really feel like guys are sometimes type of ignored on this or they’re talked about simply the 24-hour hormone cycle for males with cortisol. However while you’re explaining this in regards to the moon, I spotted possibly the blokes are completed a disservice right here as a result of in the event that they’re residing on the planet with the moon as properly, in order that they’re additionally having these month-to-month rhythms, even when it’s not tied right into a menstrual cycle, they’re nonetheless experiencing shifts associated to the moon. And so I really feel like that’s a fantastic factor that we most likely usually overlook, particularly for males.

And also you talked about cortisol and insulin. And I do know that these are two that get talked about fairly a bit within the trendy world as a result of they will usually be out of stability for lots of people. So I’m curious you probably have another strategies for serving to to have the precise rhythm and stability of cortisol, protecting insulin in good ranges, and issues that we are able to all do which are supportive.

Masami: Sure. And if you happen to don’t thoughts, I’ll again up a bit of bit in regards to the male hormones as properly with the moon cycles. And sure, we do speak about male hormones being 24-hour cycles, however truly if you happen to step again and have a look at the circa lunar cycles, you’ll be able to truly see the adjustments in oxytocin ranges in males in the identical means that I described and additionally testosterone, manufacturing truly goes up fairly a bit main as much as the total moon. And this may truly result in temper swings for males, in addition to a bit of bit extra type of aggression can kick in, and in addition to sexual actions can go up for males. So these research are on the market. It’s simply it’s important to type of dig deeper to seek out out if the lads work in these cycles as properly. After which, , the reply is sure. And so it’s like extra to be explored. I’m excited to type of see the place the research are going now that there are much more curiosity. I’m certain you seen within the international degree, individuals are focused on moon extra, however totally different nations have an interest within the moon. They’re sending out these spaceships and rockets to the moon to discover moon way over they’ve been doing for a very long time. So, , simply as a aspect notice, I’m enthusiastic about that.

After which coming again to cortisol and insulin, which I discussed a bit of bit earlier within the first episode, however the sleep cycles actually influence these two hormones drastically. So coming again to addressing among the points like sleep cycles that adjustments across the full moon and concentrate on that. Don’t ignore that. Know that that put it in your calendar, that that’s going to influence all of us throughout the globe, then that is after we’re going to all be experiencing sugar cravings after the total moon interval. And we’re not sleeping as lengthy, and our sleep is disturbed by possibly extra vivid goals and parasites actions. That is while you do want to concentrate and say, okay, I must be cautious about how a lot carbohydrates I’m taking in. And it’s important within the Japanese lunar drugs.

We are saying that the, you wish to construct up your muscle tissue and construct up your protein consumption main as much as the total moon. And so that is when makes use of of hydrochloric acid might be crucial as a result of that’s very first thing that you have to be addressing so as so that you can digest your protein, however since you’re not sleeping as properly, then that’s going to decrease your talents to truly digest. So that is when including that digestive help might be crucial and main as much as the total moon, because the melatonin goes down, the, insulin resistance can kick in, and then that’s going to result in, , your stress hormones going up. That is after they discovered that the, your neutrophil counts, mainly your white blood cells can truly go down as properly. So you’re a little bit extra prone to illness and possibly infections and issues like that too. So simply concentrate on all that that’s influencing all of us.

And what you are able to do, like I stated, is possibly help your digestion, little bit extra with complement consumption and digestive help through the main as much as the total moon. And after the total moon, possibly three to 5 days after, that’s when you could wish to help your digestion, but additionally weight loss plan with possibly advanced carbohydrates, like good greens, having, , bone broth with the vegetable soups, possibly including a bit of little bit of fats as a result of that really helps with the insulin resistance points. You recognize, the curler coaster, the sugar curler coasters as properly. And also you truly do digest fat a bit of bit higher. And the fats consumption can go up when the fats intakes go up, progesterone manufacturing can go up additionally, these have been tied collectively too.

So you’ll be able to type of cycle via your weight loss plan. And once I work with folks, I say to them, don’t stress a lot as a result of I work with mothers and grandmas and, , even simply folks which are going via perimenopause and say like, I’ve to get number of meals. And I say to them, get a wide range of meals inside that one-month cycle and don’t stress a lot. You recognize, you may be doing a bit of extra protein heavy firstly, and then you definitely may do extra, a bit of bit extra advanced carbohydrates, heavy meals in the direction of the final two weeks, or possibly final 10 days of the cycle.

Katie: And I ponder if children are naturally extra in step with that as a result of I haven’t paid consideration to it in relation to the moon cycles. However I do discover with my children, they virtually undergo phases of like craving much more protein at sure occasions. After which different occasions they’ll need fruit, or they’ll need like they’ll ask for salads or issues like that. And so I ponder if children are simply naturally extra in step with that. Such as you stated, they’ve extra progesterone. They’ve quite a lot of extra most likely optimally functioning issues of their physique generally. However I’m going to begin listening to that for my children now.

And I’d love to listen to a bit of bit extra about you talked about how the moon corresponds with totally different organ methods within the physique. And in researching for this, how that is form of like Japanese vitality drugs. And I really feel like there’s an entire new world right here that I haven’t ever gotten to find out about. So are you able to clarify which organs correlate with which moon phases? I do know you talked about issues like milk thistle for supporting the liver in sure phases. However are there different issues we are able to do to help the physique understanding that, that the organs type of possibly work in another way at totally different moon phases?

Masami: Yeah. So I’ll offer you a pair, and I’m engaged on the e book. So, , I wish to maintain off on giving an excessive amount of as a result of that is one thing that I’m nonetheless actually deeply diving into. So the primary section of the moon actually is useful to help your liver. And the the reason why usually are not simply the Japanese lunar drugs and a Chinese language drugs, however due to them, we’re making ready ourselves to provide a bit of bit extra estrogen, proper? So that you wish to filter out that xenoestrogen. And likewise throughout the brand new moon section, not simply the liver, however the mind truly shrinks in measurement. So the amount of the mind shrinks. Which means you’re truly clearing out among the particles within the mind via the glymphatic system higher. So supporting the mind as an organ for the brand new moon section. And I imply, new moon section begins round two days earlier than the brand new moon and possibly about two to 3 days. So inside that, about 4 to 5 days of the brand new moon section is usually a actually good time to do mind tapping or, , just like the mohawk line therapeutic massage that I confirmed you or engaged on lymphatic methods to actually help that drainage of the physique. So these are the methods that basically kick in across the new moon section.

After which it’s truly this corresponds with the science of the possibly Western science too. However the second section, it’s actually essential that you just start to handle your coronary heart a bit of bit. And cardiovascular points have been tied to the waxing moon points. So I’ve been learning so much about postmenopausal ladies and their cardiovascular points and cardiovascular ailments that improve as we become older as ladies, rather more than males, truly, as soon as we go into the postmenopause. One purpose is that as a result of we produce so much much less estrogen, that may trigger us to have points within the coronary heart. However so completely aligned with this Japanese drugs of the lunar drugs is that the we’re addressing the center round that point to just remember to get dietary supplements like I like utilizing issues like phosphatidylcholine for not simply the, , all of your cells and mind cells and your liver cells and bioflow and all that too. However actually phosphatidylcholine is nice to your mind. Phosphatidylserine might be actually good too for decreasing irritation within the mind and ensuring that you just’re not consuming inflammatory meals throughout that point that may influence your mind both, proper.

After which the third section of it typically goes into extra addressing issues like actions that aren’t muscularly oriented. So like possibly HIIT workouts, excessive depth workouts, engaged on heavy, heavier weights that may be completed as much as the total moon and then doing rather less of that emphasis and possibly doing cardiovascular, however extra of a actions that regular, like going for a stroll, going for a bit of jog. Perhaps doing longer walks and shifting your system through the heading to the brand new moon. That may be actually good.

And dealing on respiratory methods. So doing issues which are like emphasizing your exhales a bit of bit extra as a result of darkening of the moon is all in regards to the exhale and including the sunshine is all in regards to the inhale. So consider it like that, the inhale, exhale. We’re taking these like a deep, single, lovely breath all through the 29.5 days, proper? We’re taking this deep inhale. We’re accumulating gentle. We’re accumulating extra hormones. We’re accumulating extra oxytocin. We’re accumulating extra methods to soak up vitamins. Then as you go into the waning moon, you’re releasing, releasing. So take into consideration exhaling a bit of bit extra.

After which as we go into the final section of the moon, that is when it’s actually good to emphasise the problems round calcifications of the physique. So organs that do are inclined to wrestle with the calcified points from possibly even like consuming issues are too excessive in oxalates, oxalic acids and issues. So that is once I request that the, , and then possibly advocate folks to decrease the intakes of extremely oxalic meals like darkish candies or possibly almonds, and even if you happen to do eat quite a lot of uncooked spinach, , I don’t advocate that in Japanese drugs. We don’t advocate you ever eat truly spinach uncooked as a result of it’s actually, actually excessive in oxalates. So I by no means ate spinach uncooked until I got here to this nation, to the US. So issues like that, , decreasing that to help organs which are extremely prone to oxalates or like kidneys and bladder as properly. So, , these are the issues that you may start to handle. And so I’m, , I clearly I’ll go much more intimately in my e book, however these are among the concepts that you should use in your everyday all through the month.

Katie: Yeah, and I’m glad you introduced up that girls’s fee of heart problems drastically will increase after menopause truly to comparable charges as males. And there’s been quite a lot of speak about that, however I don’t really feel like anyone’s actually spoken to the lunar potential influence of that, which I believe can also be actually fascinating as a result of the thought of cycle syncing our exercises has gotten actually standard on-line these days and how possibly at totally different phases of your cycle, you may be higher at lifting heavier. You may wish to do extra mild actions or Pilates or one thing. And I believe that is type of possibly the lacking hyperlink that it’s like, sure/and, it’s menstrual cycle and moon cycle and that the moon cycle goes to be there even after menopause. So even if you happen to’ve misplaced your menstrual cycle, you continue to can tune into these rhythms and get the identical advantages to your physique while you begin to concentrate. And I really feel like this can be a complete world of knowledge that has been not talked about almost sufficient in our world. So I really like that you just’re bringing a voice to this.

You talked about your e book, and I’d love so that you can speak a bit of bit about your e book and when it’s going to be launched. And likewise a query I typically ask on right here, which is that if there’s a e book or various books which have profoundly impacted you personally, what they’d be and why.

Masami: Proper. So the e book, it’s going to take me not less than one other 12 months to actually undergo it, as a result of I wish to dive into the science and the spirituality of issues. I wish to stability. I’m an East meets West particular person. I grew up in Japan. I solely spoke Japanese rising up, so I didn’t come, I didn’t communicate English till I got here right here, however that helped me so much to have a look at the precise aspect and the left aspect of the mind, as a result of that’s the stability that I believe helps me to have a look at the photo voltaic and the lunar collectively. It’s the West and the East, and it’s the entrance and it’s the again. It’s the precise aspect, left aspect, female, masculine, all that. So, , keep tuned. However within the meantime, I’ll be posting quite a lot of data on my web site and YouTube. So examine that out.

And, and the e book that basically influenced me was once I was actually, actually younger. So this can be a story that each one Japanese children nonetheless to this present day, all of them should learn this at college. And the story e book is named the, it’s known as Swimmy. And it’s a French creator that wrote this e book, Swimmy. And it’s a youngsters’s e book truly, as a result of I thought of, , books that profoundly impacted me. There’s so many, proper? However this set the stage for who I’m. So to provide you only a fast concept is that the, there’s a faculty fish, they’re all coloured purple, , these little, like virtually like a goldfish trying, okay. They had been residing on this neighborhood underwater. And there’s this one fish that was the identical measurement as them, however type of was a loner that appeared. And this one little fish was coloured in black. So there’s this one little black fish and then the varsity of purple fish. And I grew up precisely like that. So my father was the one white man within the metropolis of 1 million folks. And my sister, my youthful sister, my older brother, and I had been the one children that had two totally different, , ethnicity. And we had been used to known as like combined children and issues like that. However so I by no means may discover anyone else that regarded like me. And I all the time felt like I didn’t belong wherever.

And so once I learn that e book within the textbook, Japanese textbook, and how story goes is that mainly this one black fish will get integrated into this neighborhood and truly helps them to save lots of the neighborhood by, from getting eaten by different sharks and issues like that, as a result of that black fish grew to become an eye fixed for the varsity of the purple fish and then begins to type of swim in, in sync to guard themselves. So once I learn that, I believed, I do know what my calling is, , that I, I’m not going to mix in. I’m not going to seem like them, however I may very well be the attention that may take the varsity fish collectively in defending and studying and exploring the world. In order that’s what that story was. In order that’s, that’s what impacted me essentially the most.

And I believe that’s nonetheless serving to me to know that I do belong. And now that with my love for the lunar cycles, it’s serving to me that I do belong to this better cosmic degree cycles of issues, even I’m in put up menopause. And that’s been such an attractive lesson for me that I’m that little swimmy fish that I’m swimming with the cycle of issues now with intently related to the lunar cycles. And I believe that’s an important message to provide and hope to provide to menopausal and postmenopausal ladies who get type of misplaced as a result of there are quite a lot of research which are popping out about osteoporosis going up or, , cardiovascular ailments growing for postmenopausal ladies. And there are quite a lot of actually laborious sciences popping out that’s making them actually, actually fearful. But when we are able to reconnect again to the lunar cycles, possibly that may deliver quite a lot of hope again to all of us.

Katie: Oh, I simply bought chills listening to you speak about that story. And that’s so lovely that it grew to become a part of your life’s function. And hopefully we are able to do one other interview when your e book is launched in order that we are able to be taught extra about what you uncover within the e book writing course of. And I additionally, you talked about rising up in Japan. And I stated earlier than we began recording, I want we lived close by in order that I may learn to cook dinner some Japanese and Korean meals from you. However simply briefly earlier than we wrap up, are there any meals that particularly come to thoughts which are extra conventional meals that you just assume we may benefit from studying extra about or incorporating in our diets within the US?

Masami: Sure, undoubtedly. So primary, like I stated, cooking a few of these oxalic meals like greens and blanching them, that’s truly one of many wisdoms that I discovered from residing in Japan and from my mom who was a chef truly. So I discovered so much from her. So blanching a few of these inexperienced greens, that may be a very good method to help your digestion. That’s primary.

Quantity two is that while you consider Japanese meals, you’re already serious about sushi, proper? However sushi is like, , any person saying to the possibly folks in the US and say, do you eat filet mignon each day? Like no person’s going to eat filet mignon each day, proper? So no person’s going to eat sushi each day. However one of many primary dishes that I liked, completely liked rising up consuming that I believe actually, actually helped my mind heal as a result of I had an amazing mind damage, so TBIs once I was 5 years outdated, and I fell out of a shifting van and landed on the concrete, mainly rolled over railroad tracks. So that basically threw off my intestine mind axis, but additionally my colon went to spasms, and I couldn’t go to the toilet anymore. So I used to be a really constipated little one, however what actually healed was making the fish head soups. And it would sound loopy however go to your native fish retailers or locations that promote actually wild caught salmon or one thing like that. And ask them, may you please save the top half? As a result of normally we are able to solely purchase the filets, proper? But it surely’s the top half that may heal your possibly traumatic mind accidents, can provide you quite a lot of collagen. It might truly assist together with your eyesight. It might allow you to with the pores and skin tones and your hair qualities. And what I do with the fish head soup is that you may roast it or simply put it uncooked straight into the broth, like right into a water.

However what I do is I break off about an inch and a half of the kombu. Kombu, I’m certain about kombu, but it surely’s a seaweed sheets. So you could possibly purchase kombu and it’s Okay-O-M-B-U, kombu. You may purchase that virtually wherever. You purchase them, you break that sheet into a bit of piece, stick it into the water and let it sit as a result of that’s what’s going to deliver again that umami style. That’s what’s going to thicken the broth. That’s going to create a bit of little bit of a sliminess, , like a thickening agent of the soup. And, however that thickening agent provides you the L-glutamine mainly, and it heals the intestine lining if you’re dealing in, all of us are coping with a intestine irritation, it doesn’t matter what we do, , just a bit little bit of stress of cortisol and lack of sleep with the total moon. That’s going to extend your cortisol. After which that’s going to extend the inflammatory points in your intestine too. So making kombu with a fish head soup and you let it sit there for about half an hour earlier than you activate the water. After which let it come to boil and skim off from a few of that bubbles that come up and discard that. After which proceed to cook dinner that on low warmth for about an hour. And you’ve got this beautiful fish broth. And if you happen to don’t wish to eat the fish head, give it to possibly different animals or critters. However I eat the entire fish head mainly, not the bone half. However you should use that broth and make your self another dishes. You may cook dinner rice with it. You may cook dinner your veggies with it. You may cook dinner your meats with it.

Katie: Nicely, I’ve somebody who owns a seafood market in my neighborhood, so I’m excited to provide {that a} strive. I’ve made bone broth, definitely, however I’m excited to make truly fish head soup. And like I stated, I’m excited to be taught extra from you sooner or later. Hopefully we are able to do one other episode when your e book comes out. However for right this moment, thanks a lot to your time. Like I stated, I really like that you’re bringing gentle to an space that’s not very a lot talked about and that seemingly has a really profound influence on our biology. So I’m very grateful for every little thing you’ve shared right this moment. Thanks.

Masami: Thanks a lot.

Katie: And thanks as all the time to you for sharing your most respected sources, your time, your vitality, and your consideration with us right this moment. We’re each so grateful that you just did. And I hope that you’ll be a part of me once more on the following episode

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