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This episode addresses a subject that’s high of thoughts for lots of people proper now. I’ve heard from lots of you guys about stress cravings, weight acquire, and simply how tough it’s to navigate wholesome meals decisions proper now with all the extra stress on the planet. And I’m right here with Brittany Watkins, who I’ve interviewed earlier than, however needed to carry again particularly for this subject. She is an internationally acknowledged speaker, creator, and coach. And he or she has applications particular to this very topic, with issues like emotional consuming, meals cravings, and self-sabotage. In actual fact, she’s one of many high specialists on the planet on utilizing one thing known as Emotional Freedom Method for addressing emotional consuming and weight reduction. And we go into that on this episode. However we additionally speak about what I feel is a very essential distinction right here that lots of you guys introduced up on a current weblog put up.

So I shared in podcast Episode 309, should you’re enthusiastic about listening, my very own trauma restoration story, and the way that ultimately led to a fairly large weight reduction as a aspect impact. The essential factor there may be that the load loss was a aspect impact of the interior work and the interior well being. And it was primarily a mirrored image of that. I obtained so many follow-up questions on what I particularly did or was consuming or how I used to be exercising, that I wrote a weblog put up to deal with that aspect as nicely, deal with extra of the bodily features of weight reduction. And the explanation I did that’s I do know once I was nonetheless in that mindset and fighting weight myself, that’s what I used to be on the lookout for. I believed I used to be attempting to discover solutions on how to shed weight. So I did it to reply all these questions, write a put up targeted on the bodily aspect of that. However I don’t need that to be construed as I feel that weight reduction is the objective as a result of like I stated, for me, whereas I believed weight reduction was the objective, and it was my focus for therefore a few years, it was really a aspect impact of coping with the interior mindset aspect, that ended up being far more essential. And I very a lot do assume that folks could be wholesome at quite a lot of sizes. I feel that’s a really nuanced subject. And there’s lots of confounding components there. However I don’t assume folks want to essentially be a sure measurement or a sure weight to be instantly wholesome. However I can say definitively, for me, that I’m really bodily measurably more healthy on labs, that my Hashimoto’s is in remission, and that each one of my markers are in a more healthy vary now. Additionally, once more, not in all probability due to the load loss, however in all probability additionally as a aspect impact of doing the interior work, similar to the load loss was a aspect impact. So I needed to carry up that subject. We go in deeper on that on this episode as nicely. I feel you’ll discover this actually fascinating, particularly should you’ve struggled with perhaps cravings or stress consuming, understandably, during the last 9 months. And we speak about how whereas this hasn’t been a perfect yr in some ways, it has been an unimaginable instructor, and the way we will use it to our benefit to study and to enhance internally. So, with out additional ado, let’s be part of Brittany. Brittany, welcome again to the podcast.

Brittany: Hello, thanks for having me.

Katie: So we’ve already finished one episode collectively, I’ll make it possible for’s linked at wellnessmama.fm. Should you guys are assembly Brittany for the primary time right now, that’s a terrific place to begin as nicely. However I’d love to recap a few of that and likewise perhaps go a bit deeper on a few of these factors that we touched on final time, realizing there’s gonna be some particular concerns associated to all the stressors particular to this yr. However, to begin broad, are you able to form of stroll us via how trauma can present up on the physique as additional weight and doubtlessly as different issues as nicely? As a result of I’ve shared this publicly, I’ve misplaced about 80 kilos within the final couple of years, and lots of it went again to coping with trauma for me, and lots of people have requested comply with up questions associated to that. And I do know we touched on this a bit bit in our first podcast, however I’d love to give you the option to go deeper and to present some deep solutions on that.

Brittany: Yeah, nicely, that was one of many greatest lacking hyperlinks for me. I imply, I’ve struggled with my very own weight points and emotional consuming issues for a very long time. And, , when folks had been attempting to take care of it even, , from the highest down with food plan and train, however even a number of the esoteric stuff like mindset work and optimistic affirmations, it simply by no means went deep sufficient for me. And it wasn’t till I found trauma work and the way to apply tapping, which is the tactic that I educate, particularly to trauma round weight points, that was once I was in a position to launch weight.

So, , yeah, trauma is only one of this stuff that we wouldn’t assume can present up as additional weight in our physique. However, as an illustration, I got here up with this, , form of less complicated method for folks to perceive how trauma impacts our our bodies by calling them weight reduction blockers. So I found that there are seven primary weight reduction blockers, that once we expertise a selected form of trauma, it would principally make our physique need to be fats. It’ll make our physique need to maintain on to additional weight as a result of subconsciously, it thinks that it’s defending us by placing the additional weight on. So, like, for instance, , in case your dad and mom if you had been a child used to yell at you or used to make you sit on the dinner desk till all of your meals was eaten off your plate, that may give your mind a unconscious message that you’ve to eat all of the meals in your plate so as to make them joyful.

So subconsciously, what you’ll do is, you’ll have nervousness about throwing meals away, otherwise you’ll really feel harassed, otherwise you’ll really feel responsible, otherwise you’ll really feel ashamed any time you allow meals in your plate and it’s gonna be thrown away as a result of subconsciously, your dad and mom principally, or whoever was telling you this, created a trauma. I imply, traumas can huge and it may be small. So principally what occurs is that created a trauma loop in your mind, that each time you’re in that specific state of affairs, you’re feeling dangerous and your mind is getting really the flawed message, but it surely’s the best way that your mind was coded to eat extra meals than your physique really wants.

So, yeah, I imply, it took me in all probability 15 years to determine all 7 of the weight-loss blockers and I’m even discovering new ones now. Nevertheless it’s an actual factor. And, , folks wrestle with additional weight for a very, actually very long time. And, , what I discover is that they’re going about it within the flawed method, they’re not addressing the trauma, and particularly coping with it in, , a selected method, which is the best way that we do it in our remedy.

Katie: Yeah, and I wanna go into the specifics of that a bit bit extra. However one factor additionally I really feel prefer it’s essential to say at this level within the dialog, I shared a put up on Instagram just lately concerning the dietary and bodily aspect of issues I did for weight reduction. And the title of that put up was, “How to shed weight,” principally what labored for me. And I really took some warmth, which is comprehensible, from some individuals who stated, , “You shouldn’t concentrate on the load loss,” which I really very a lot agree with. However this was a hard-learned lesson for me. And the explanation I needed to carry this up is, I had finished a podcast, Episode 309, lengthy earlier than that put up, that talked concerning the trauma aspect, and the mindset aspect, and all the interior work I had to do to transfer previous that.

And what I discovered via that course of was that I believed weight reduction was the main target. And it seems, shedding the load was merely a aspect impact of studying to be at peace on the within. And so I don’t ever wanna overlook that time. It’s so, so core and so key to I feel the entire dialog. However, that stated, as soon as I had handled the interior aspect, these adjustments considerably occurred naturally in my life, however I did simply inadvertently change some food plan and life-style components. And other people needed to know these specifics as nicely, which is why I shared them. So, I simply needed to communicate to the purpose. And I do know you speak about this as nicely. It’s not that shedding pounds is the top all be all or that we shouldn’t love and settle for ourselves at any measurement.

That’s definitely isn’t what I’m attempting to say. I discovered, like I discussed, definitely, that weight reduction was the aspect impact. However I additionally know, trying again, once I was fighting that, and earlier than I understood the interior trauma connection, I used to be on the lookout for issues like how to shed weight. So I needed to give you the option to meet folks the place they had been in order that I may begin the dialog about, , the well being aspect and the food plan aspect is essential, but it surely’s not the place it begins. You could have to begin inside. So I simply wanna carry that up. I’m certain you run into the physique positivity, physique neutrality factor very often in all probability within the work that you simply do, proper?

Brittany: Yeah. I imply, that’s one of many issues that’s so attention-grabbing about my work is that, , when folks are available, they’ve this objective that they wanna shed weight, we don’t speak about food plan or diet or we barely even speak about train. We don’t speak about any of that stuff. It’s principally like going via intensive remedy. You recognize? It’s targeted on some food-related issues, however lots of it’s not associated to meals in any respect. You recognize, we talked about this on the final episode the place when ladies have been, their physique boundaries have been violated, which principally is any person making them really feel uncomfortable sexually. It may very well be small or huge. That’s one of many greatest causes that folks will placed on additional weight.

No one would assume…Logically, folks wouldn’t assume that it has something to do with holding on to additional weight. However, yeah, it does. So, yeah, I imply, I agree with you to get again to the purpose of getting it not be about weight reduction. Clearly, I do have an organization that helps folks launch weight, and that’s the best way that we are saying it, and really launch fats not weight as a result of most cancers sufferers launch weight or shed weight, we wanna launch fat, proper? Should you wanna really change your physique. However as soon as they arrive in they usually begin doing the work, we don’t even speak about weight reduction. That’s the very last thing that we speak about. After which, comparable to your story, to what you simply stated, as soon as they undergo the intensive work they usually do all of the therapeutic work on themselves. I all the time inform them, “Hear, on the finish of this…” You recognize, that’s all the time everybody’s subsequent query is, “Okay, what ought to I eat? What food plan ought to I comply with?”

And I all the time say, “Hear, if you get to the top of it, you’re really gonna have a significantly better relationship along with your physique.” And intuitively, you’re in all probability simply gonna begin to comply with a more healthy consuming plan and also you’re simply gonna be attracted to consuming more healthy meals. That’s the pure method the physique does it. When you give the physique the message, “Hey, I don’t want this additional fats on my physique. We’re protected now. We’re not in peril. We’re at peace now.” You’ve processed all this stuff that had been making your physique assume that it wanted to maintain on to this additional weight, the physique goes, “Oh, okay, cool.” And so it simply says, “Okay, I don’t want that cookie at dinner. I can select salad as a substitute of pasta,” . And it’s only a pure course of.

And so, , pure weight reduction, I do know it appears like, urgh. Once I was going via my wrestle, if any person informed me that they misplaced weight naturally, I’d wanna kill them. So, , I understand how annoying that time period could be, but it surely actually could be when you course of the interior turmoil principally that is occurring subconsciously. This isn’t stuff that individuals are conscious of. However, , if you’re fighting consuming issues or additional weight and also you’ve tried different issues, they usually haven’t labored, often, , the reason for it’s this form of, , underlying turmoil that we’re not programmed in our society to actually take a look at.

Katie: Yeah, like I stated, I feel I ignored that or resisted that concept for lots of years. And through these years, I attempted to, like weight reduction was a battle that I felt like I used to be preventing, and I felt like I used to be always attempting to punish myself or to, like, power my will to have an iron will and select solely the healthiest issues. And that shift was so unimaginable and so noticeable. As soon as I handled that, to begin with, I used to be a lot much less harassed. I didn’t even notice how a lot psychological power was going to that battle each day. However, such as you stated, there was no extra struggle when it got here to selecting wholesome meals or if I wasn’t hungry, and my physique simply didn’t need meals. And if I had tried to eat once I wasn’t hungry, my physique would have simply stated no. And I used to be in a position to hear so significantly better to my physique. So I wasn’t preventing it. And I felt like, for the primary time I used to be working with my physique and never towards it, and the method simply grew to become a lot simpler. I do know we talked about it a bit bit within the final episode. However, on that observe, what are a number of the methods we will begin to overcome trauma? As a result of I do know I’ve shared my story in items on the podcast earlier than, however it will possibly look like an awesome hurdle to conquer or proceed like one thing that’s gonna take a very very long time. And the fantastic thing about it’s that neither of these issues has to be true. However stroll us via how we will begin to unravel and overcome that trauma course of.

Brittany: Okay. So, my historical past is that I struggled with emotional consuming lots. Ranging from the time I used to be 15, I obtained kicked out of my home. I used to be homeless. I grew up in a really spiritual household, who principally forged me out. So there was clearly lots of trauma there and lots of trauma even earlier than that. So, my emotional consuming began then. I used to be actually, actually, actually fortunate although to discover a therapist who taught me how to use a technique known as EFT, Emotional Freedom Methods or tapping. So I used tapping in remedy to take care of all of my emotional points that I used to be fighting. So, , I didn’t give it some thought for my weight points at that time. And I feel, , my weight was form of or my cravings had simply began at that time, so I didn’t actually, , know if I had a weight drawback but.

I began utilizing tapping, , simply to assist take care of every part that occurred with my household, to assist love myself higher, to not be so offended about every part that occurred. And, over time, what ended up occurring was, I discovered that the common EFT, so EFT is a nine-point system that principally anyone can do to themselves any time they’ve a nerve-racking feeling or they really feel anxious. So it’s a tremendous method. I like it a lot. I’m so captivated with it, that’s why I speak about it, and I’ve a complete enterprise round it. So, I really like when individuals are empowered to heal themselves within the second they usually don’t want to await a therapist or they don’t want to, , look exterior of them for the reply. In order that’s why I really like, , common EFT.

However what I discovered once I was coping with my weight wrestle is that the common EFT technique that they had been educating us didn’t work for my weight points. And so over…Oh my gosh, it was a giant, huge wrestle. Someday whereas I used to be actually fighting this chocolate bar, I keep in mind I knew that I used to be…You recognize, I’d reached the purpose, , most individuals which can be listening to this podcast, you’ve reached the purpose the place I name consciously incompetent, which is, that you simply’re consuming if you’re not likely hungry, you simply don’t understand how to cease it.

So, I used to be at that time the place I knew that I used to be consuming, I knew that I wasn’t actually hungry, and I had this chocolate bar in entrance of me, and I used to be simply telling myself, “Man, I don’t wanna eat it. I don’t wanna eat this,” . However I actually needed to do it on the similar time, and we’ve all had these moments. So I keep in mind in that second, and this was, , the billionth time I’d had a struggle with meals. And I keep in mind, in that second, I heard a voice. And the voice began giving me directions. And it stated, “Push the chocolate bar away.” And I pushed it away. And it stated, “Okay, sit again, begin tapping on these factors.” I stated okay. After which it requested me or I simply heard these sequence of questions. And I went via these sequence of questions. And after about 10 minutes, I regarded down on the chocolate bar, and I didn’t need it anymore.

Mainly what occurred was, it was a mix of tapping and regression remedy, NLP, shamanic soul retrieval, which had been all strategies that I had been learning for years and years to strive to get to the reply, to strive to get to the basis reason for what should be blamed for me overeat. And principally, on this second, , my greater self, my angels, who is aware of what it was, or, , perhaps my mind, put all the info that I had discovered collectively into this one method. And I discovered with this one specific method, I may, in that second, every time I needed to eat, and I knew I wasn’t actually hungry, I may push the meals away, do that course of and never really feel disadvantaged anymore.

And principally, what I observed occurring is that every time I needed to eat, the method, principally one of many questions is, okay, push the meals away from you, sit again, shut your eyes, float again in time, and inform me how outdated you might be. And you’ve got to reply actually shortly. I’ll simply form of let you know the questions as a result of I feel folks might be enthusiastic about them. So sit again and return in time and inform me how outdated you might be. And what I discovered was that with each emotional urge I had, it was related to a traumatic expertise that I had had previously. And it was often from 0 to, , about 10 or 12 years outdated. Most of them had been between Zero and eight, which is when your unconscious thoughts, principally, you’re working unconsciously, you don’t have the need to resolve sure or no about issues.

So it was all the time going again to a selected occasion. And often, the occasions had been little, . I keep in mind one time going again to an occasion the place any person dropped a glass on the ground, and it broke, and it startled me. A few of it was, , when my dad and mom had been yelling at me, or once I obtained punished for doing one thing dangerous, or, , any person’s saying one thing to me on the playground. And so what I discovered was that the meals and the compulsion for meals, the best way that I used to be asking the questions was really taking me to the traumas that wanted to be healed in my mind. After which once I utilized this technique, once I obtained to this particular trauma, inside 10 minutes, I had healed that trauma and often two others. Normally, there’s three traumas connected, which don’t take a complete lot of time to heal. As soon as I’d heal these traumas, inside about 10 minutes, if you return and also you take a look at the meals, the will for the meals is gone.

So I all the time inform folks, , when you have an emotional consuming dysfunction otherwise you’re fighting meals, the meals is definitely attempting to present you, the meals will present you what wants to be healed to ensure that you to cease this drawback, after which really, to ensure that you to step into your energy and to be the person who you’re meant to be on this planet. I really consider that. I imply, I’ve been doing this work professionally now for 10 years. I’ve been doing it on myself for 20. And, , I’ve completely discovered that when I’ve healed my relationship with meals, it has made me a extra empowered, stronger, happier, , extra confident individual simply in each space of my life. And my college students all the time attest to that as nicely. Does that make sense? Did I clarify that okay?

Katie: It does. And I feel the essential key that I discovered and wanna spotlight there may be, these don’t have to be main life-changing moments that you simply keep in mind that had been by some means, like, surprising or, , one thing in your childhood. I definitely had one occasion from my highschool years that completely was that form of trauma. However I additionally discovered many cases from a lot earlier in childhood, to your level, that appear insignificant or appear very small. However in that little one state, like, these issues actually caught with me, and I didn’t even notice how deeply, such as you had been saying, till I began doing that interior work and was stunned to discover, wow, this one remark {that a} relative made at that birthday celebration caught with me and made me really feel shameful about consuming sure meals for my entire life. And I didn’t even consciously know that.

And so, I feel the fantastic thing about it’s realizing there’s in all probability this stuff that might not be stuff you consciously keep in mind proper now or that you concentrate on usually, which can be influencing your every day habits. And the fantastic thing about that’s, such as you stated, when you might have meals because the set off, you get the possibility to take a look at these issues and to study from them. For folks listening, lots of us are mothers, and I do know my thoughts additionally goes to that time of realizing, okay, I in all probability have inadvertently finished some issues with my youngsters which can be going to depart them with issues they’re gonna work via as adults. As a lot as I hope that’s not the case, the chance is nice. What are some ways in which we will, hopefully, with our children, begin from the start to have a wholesome relationship with meals or keep away from a few of perhaps the extra frequent pitfalls?

Brittany: Yeah, it is a actually frequent query. I imply, the most effective one, clearly, is to be a great mannequin for them. Proper? So, , you having a wholesome relationship with meals, your youngsters, even should you disguise the truth that you’re overeating, , meals at night time, like should you put the youngsters…Should you eat like a traditional individual all day lengthy, after which the youngsters go to mattress, and also you’re like, “Oh, lastly, it’s time for me,” and also you go to the cabinets, and that’s if you, , go loopy on the meals, your youngsters subconsciously choose that up. Youngsters are so sensible they usually’re being programmed along with your behaviors.

So, whether or not you prefer it or not, the best way you might be with your self is you’re transmitting that to them. In order that they’re studying how to be folks by watching you, each consciously and unconsciously. They’re in a state of trance. From 0 to eight years outdated, they’re in a state of trance. So, meaning they’re choosing up on issues which can be simply floating round that aren’t even stated. They’re choosing up on patterns and behaviors that perhaps you’re not even exhibiting them. I’ve had some purchasers inform me previously, , once we undergo this course of, folks get into like a, , form of hypnotic state, and they’ll return and keep in mind that their dad and mom or one in every of their dad and mom was dishonest on the opposite father or mother, however that wasn’t one thing that they knew consciously of their childhood.

So, youngsters simply choose up issues with out you, , even should you assume you’re doing a great job of hiding it, you’re not. So, clearly, , coping with a relationship with your self is the very, absolute best method. You recognize, after which, , not pushing meals. I do know some youngsters are actually choosy about, , their meals. However, what I discover with youngsters is that youngsters are often very intuitive, and perhaps they don’t wanna eat their greens after they’re little. And, , for my part, I feel that’s okay as a result of I actually do really feel that youngsters know what their physique wants and what their physique desires. Youngsters are rising lots. So if they need lots of like carbs or one thing like that after they’re a child, that’s serving to them develop, that’s serving to them create power that’s, , serving to their our bodies develop into the human that they’re changing into. So, , I don’t wanna throw anyone off as a result of all people has their very own method to take care of meals and their youngsters. However, , I simply all the time say to belief your youngsters and to belief what they like, and what they don’t like, and to allow them to eat to their satisfaction.

Katie: Utterly aligned with you on that one. My thought has all the time been, I preserve nutrient-dense meals in the home, every kind of various meals as a result of clearly I would like to concentrate on micronutrients and ensuring they’re nourished, however I don’t ever power any particular meals or make them end the meals on their plate. They usually have entry to, every time they’re hungry, sources of wholesome carbs, and proteins, and fat. And that’s been part of my shift. And I’m attempting very exhausting to make that shift with my youngsters. And the way I discuss meals is there’s by no means meals which can be good or dangerous. I don’t ever strive to speak about depriving of sure meals, but additionally meals are treats. And we speak about meals being a gasoline and our our bodies being these superb instruments that we will do unimaginable issues and ensuring that we gasoline.

As a result of I additionally discovered, a part of my journey, I ended up consuming really extra as soon as I handled the trauma. I noticed I had been form of persistent weight-reduction plan and undereating for therefore lengthy. And as soon as I fastened that, I discovered myself needing extra protein, as an illustration, and I had gotten much more lively, and I wanted extra energy. And that has been one thing I’d have been terrified to eat extra meals earlier than I handled it. And now I view it as I’m fueling my physique to do all these actions I would like it to do. And I’m hoping that, , comes throughout to my youngsters. However I really like that time of children are so intuitive. And if they’ve fixed entry to nourishing meals, they’ll naturally eat what they want.

That doesn’t imply we must always have, , junk meals accessible in any respect hours of the day. However, to that time, with no meals being good or dangerous, I don’t strive to management what my youngsters eat exterior of my house. I view it as my accountability is to present nutrient-dense meals in our house, and their job as they become old is to navigate their relationship with meals in a wholesome method. So even when they’re going to a pal’s home or a birthday celebration, I don’t ever strive to inform them not to have the cake or inform them how they need to make these meals decisions as a result of I really feel like they’re gonna really study that. They usually know in the event that they don’t really feel superb in the event that they eat one thing they’re not used to consuming, that’s a terrific instructor for them. I don’t have to create that disgrace cycle with meals for them.

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Katie: I really feel like one other factor proper now that definitely I’m listening to from folks about it, I’m guessing you might be listening to far more so is all the stress-related cravings that include all of the loopy occasions of this previous yr. And, on a private stage, I do know the primary two weeks of lockdown in our space, I obtained all these fantastic triggers that had been academics as a result of I used to be offended, like, viscerally offended and needed to, like, punch partitions. I wasn’t hungry. I needed to work out on a regular basis. And so I spent a number of days going, “What on earth is occurring with me? Why am I offended? What what’s inflicting this?” And I noticed, a part of that went again to my greater trauma from highschool and vowing in that second that I’d by no means really feel helpless once more. And I had made all these superb constructs in my life in order that I by no means had to really feel helpless, and I had programs, and I managed all of the variables. After which this factor occurred that was greater than me that I couldn’t management. And I felt like, metaphorically like I used to be being held down another time. And so, my psyche was reacting by wanting to simply come up swinging.

And so, it was really a terrific alternative to form of face that and work via it. However I feel lots of us had our personal experiences with all the stress that comes with a large life change like that that’s occurred in so many locations. So, what are some instruments…Properly, to begin with, what’s inflicting lots of these elevated cravings? As a result of we hear the joke concerning the COVID 19, and other people gaining weight, and all these cravings and there’s memes about that on a regular basis, and consuming margaritas for breakfast, and cupcakes are actually a meals group and all these issues. What’s inflicting all these additional cravings proper now and what are some methods we will begin to deal with that?

Brittany: Yeah, nicely, I imply, you really did precisely the appropriate factor if you began to discover your triggers is you ask your self, “Okay, what’s inflicting this? What is that this reminding me of?” And keep in mind once I was breaking down the steps of what to do if you really feel triggered to eat meals is you ask your self, “Okay, circulation again in time, how outdated am I proper now? What’s occurring? What’s my unconscious thoughts remembering?” So what is occurring is it’s triggering trauma. It’s triggering, and that is gonna be completely different for everyone. However, see, the factor is, we as people, we create coping mechanisms. Our brains are superb. I imply, the truth that people can undergo the quantity of stress, and nervousness, and trauma that, , we undergo and nonetheless be excessive functioning folks.

I imply, if you concentrate on a number of the worst issues which have occurred to you and the way you felt in that second, one of the crucial superb issues concerning the human thoughts is that we create this coping talent that pushes it method down to the again of our thoughts and it principally says, “Okay, we’re gonna simply transfer on with life. We’re gonna fake like that didn’t occur.” Properly, when one thing occurs that’s comparable to that factor that occurred, the reminiscence comes up and it goes, “Whoa, hazard. Keep in mind this occurred final time? Don’t let this factor occur once more.” And it provides us a warning signal. And often, the warning signal comes within the type of stress and nervousness, and that’s when folks will use meals to soothe that stress and nervousness. And so, I’d say, for everyone it’s completely different.

You recognize, you shared a few of your coping mechanisms, which is like having every part so as and, , creating programs that you simply management, proper? That’s one in every of your coping expertise. You recognize, there’s folks that can, , buy groceries, , or folks…I do know one in every of my coping expertise is journey. So I’m all the time, , attempting to go someplace new and journey someplace new. All of us have these other ways, or, , some folks actually like to have every part organized, or, , some folks need every part messy, proper? So all of us have these methods and issues that we do to make ourselves really feel protected and really feel good. And we construct our lives round that. And typically we don’t know the emotions that we’re masking by doing this stuff till we will’t do these issues anymore.

So I feel that’s, for most individuals, that’s what’s occurring, is it’s citing emotions of, , not feeling protected, not having freedom. You recognize, I imply, all of us have felt unsafe sooner or later in our lives. All of us, , have had our freedom taken away in some methods. You recognize, once we’re a child and our father or mother is telling us sure and no, proper? So this stuff are very primal feelings which can be arising for us. And, , nothing like this has ever occurred earlier than. So everybody’s obtained these traumas arising to the floor that they’re, , used to. And I do know lots of my mates, they’re actually busy folks. They like actually busy packed schedules they usually like to go, go, go, go, go on a regular basis. And, , that’s one other coping talent. So, all of the people who I do know that had been actually busy, that like to go, go, go on a regular basis, that they had an actual battle, , with that, proper? The place, “Okay, now I can’t be busy on a regular basis, so all of those “Demons” got here again up to the floor.” However see, should you’re not asking your self the appropriate questions, and also you don’t know the place to look, you’re simply gonna assume, “Oh, I’m simply actually hungry proper now. Oh, I simply desire a margarita for breakfast.”

That’s not really what’s occurring. What’s occurring is that you simply’re subconsciously being reminded of a time the place you felt unsafe or one thing was uncomfortable or scary to you, and that’s inflicting the stress and nervousness. That’s inflicting you to wanna, , have these behaviors and use these coping expertise. So should you don’t understand how to ask the appropriate questions, then, , you’re simply gonna assume, “Oh, okay, I simply have a bunch of cravings,” however that’s really not what’s occurring.

Katie: That makes a lot sense. So, for individuals who aren’t acquainted, stroll us via how the tapping particularly helps us to deal with these issues after which to launch them?

Brittany: Yeah. So, the hippocampus is an space of our mind that shops our reminiscences. And what we will see now with mind imaging gadgets is that when the reminiscences are destructive, we really see these little indentations within the hippocampus. So, I all the time describe the hippocampus like a sponge with a bunch of holes in it. So, , we now have hundreds of thousands of little indentations as a result of we now have so many issues that occurred to us that, , had been destructive or, , made our physique really feel anxious or harassed. So what occurs is when your physique feels anxious or harassed, when one thing dangerous occurs, the amygdala, which is the physique’s struggle or flight system, sounds an alarm and it makes us really feel dangerous. It makes us really feel harassed, or anxious, or scared, or offended. And so, what’s occurring…And, , the amygdala tells your physique to really feel these feelings, proper?

So, what occurs is a foul reminiscence will get triggered, okay? You keep in mind, , like, as an illustration, , any person’s saying one thing dangerous to you on a playground. Possibly any person doesn’t say one thing dangerous to you, however they’ve, like, the identical tone of their voice or that individual simply reminds you of the child that stated this factor to you. You’re not gonna put this collectively consciously, however it would set off the amygdala, the struggle or flight response in your physique. So any person will say one thing to you and also you’ll really feel this stress and anxious feeling. Properly, what tapping does is tapping really zeroes in on that reminiscence. So keep in mind the query that I requested is, okay, you push the meals away, return in time, how outdated are you proper now? What’s occurring? So that you really return and also you keep in mind that reminiscence, you skilled the reminiscence, you describe the reminiscence when you’re stimulating the acupressure factors.

And what occurs if you stimulate the acupressure factors when you’re desirous about this dangerous factor that occurred is it sends a flood of serotonin to the mind, and it really severs the struggle or flight response. So, you may nonetheless take into consideration that dangerous reminiscence but it surely doesn’t make the alarm sign in your physique go off. So, any person can have, , that very same tone with you, however you’re not gonna keep in mind that it reminded you of, , any person on the playground otherwise you’re not gonna have an issue with it. Or, , I don’t know, principally something…Individuals are getting triggered on a regular basis.

So what occurs is, over time, if you use tapping increasingly more, is you’re principally therapeutic your hippocampus which is like your reminiscence sponge. So once we go in and we take a look at what occurs if you use tapping is we’ll discover that these indentations really disappear. So the indentations are what tells your mind, tells your physique to launch the struggle or flight response, activate the alarm. So once we use tapping it severs that connection, so you may keep in mind dangerous issues which have occurred to you, but it surely’s virtually prefer it occurred any person else.

In actual fact, they are saying that, with people who want to go on the witness stand about issues which have occurred which can be, , traumatic, it’s recognized inside our neighborhood that in the event that they want to give a great, , testimonial that’s plausible, that they shouldn’t really faucet on their expertise since you turn into so disconnected from it. Like, once I was beginning inform my story, I’ve really been criticized for this as nicely. Once I began to inform my story, I’m going, “Properly, my story occurred once I was 15. I used to be kicked out and I used to be homeless.” I say it prefer it’s, , so blasé, really easy. And, after all, I’ve informed the story a bunch, however I’ve additionally finished a lot tapping on it. It’s prefer it occurred to any person else or it’s prefer it occurred in a special lifetime. I don’t have any of the identical stress responses once I take into consideration that point than most individuals do.

In order that’s what’s so cool about this, is that, , individuals who have gone via actually difficult conditions, or, even should you haven’t, even should you simply had little issues that occurred to you, if you sever the alarm system, if you sever this response, it simply makes you much more relaxed. So that you’ll discover that you simply’re simply not so uptight. You don’t really feel so overwhelmed. You’re not harassed. You’re not anxious. You recognize, that’s form of the overarching, , change that occurs if you use tapping to heal your mind principally is what’s occurring.

Katie: That makes a lot sense. And yeah, it’s fascinating. I’d not have in all probability believed simply how profoundly that may change till I skilled it. And so, now I point out, , to lots of people as a result of, like I stated, I felt like I went to battle with myself for therefore, so lengthy. And I used to be preventing on the flawed fronts, principally. Like, I used to be preventing an enemy on one aspect and the precise root of it was someplace completely completely different. And that’s that trauma aspect. And the interior aspect is so highly effective that you simply actually, like I’ve stated it so many instances, which you can’t struggle your method via that. You possibly can’t punish your self skinny. You possibly can’t hate your self wholesome. Like, you actually do have to try this interior work. And the fantastic thing about it’s, as a result of there are triggers, we now have the chance to try this, and to set a great instance, hopefully, for our children. You’ve talked about that you simply work with lots, I do know you’ve labored with 1000’s and 1000’s of ladies on this and serving to them overcome it in numerous methods. Are you able to speak about a number of the applications you might have for that? And, after all, I’ll make certain they’re linked within the present notes as nicely.

Brittany: Yeah, certain. So, I imply, one of many issues that I’ll simply give away as a free present is, the method that helps folks cease emotional consuming, the one which I used to be describing with all of the questions, I share that in a free video. So if folks need that method, I give all of it away totally free. They’ll undergo the method. You recognize, folks all the time will write us feedback on social media, and emails, and stuff saying how life-changing it’s. So, that they will get at emotionaleatingexpert.com. And you may, , ship all of the hyperlinks and stuff.

However, yeah, , our primary program is an intensive six-month program, the place we principally go in and we heal all the traumas that trigger additional weight. So, , most individuals take a look at it as like an entire mind reset. You recognize, and all people has completely different traumas, however what I discovered is I discovered a sample with individuals who, , the place the trauma exhibits up on their physique, I’ve principally found out the system of why it does that. So I do know the appropriate the questions to ask. I do know the place to search for the traumas. You recognize, lots of people will say, “Properly, I don’t even know the place to look. I don’t, like, , I don’t know what occurred to me. How can I do know if I don’t keep in mind it?” That is what we cowl. I even have coaches that work one-on-one with folks.

And that’s the easiest way to do that. Should you wanna actually, actually go deep and heal, people who get the most effective outcomes are those that work with a coach, they usually go actually deep, and commit to it. You recognize, folks will say to me after they’re on the opposite aspect of it, that they did extra work in six months of working with me than they’ve their entire lives of doing remedy and all the opposite various strategies that they’ve tried. And I work with folks which can be, , PhDs which can be, , very, very, , extremely accredited people who have finished a lot of issues and studied lots of modalities.

And I all the time hear that suggestions. So, , for me, that is what I used to be born to do. I used to be simply utterly obsessive about fixing this drawback. And, , I’m actually joyful to say that I discovered the system and the components. Six months would possibly sound like a very long time to any person, however if you’ve struggled with one thing for therefore lengthy to your entire life, , what’s six months, proper? As a result of one individuals are on the opposite aspect of it, and, , we’ve tracked folks now for 10 years which have graduated from yr 1, the issue doesn’t come again. So, it’s everlasting. It’s everlasting change eternally.

So, , I all the time inform folks, it’s not enjoyable. It’s exhausting work. It’s not like a bunch of optimistic affirmations that make you’re feeling good. You’re purging. It’s tough, heavy stuff, but it surely’s a protected house. You recognize, we now have superb, superb assist. We’ve superb coaches. The different women in this system too, we introduce them, we now have one thing known as the Buddy System, the place we introduce you to different folks. And we all the time hear simply how, like, superb the brand new connections are and the brand new friendships which can be shaped. We’ve women which have met their finest mates, , within the class. So, it’s a small neighborhood, but it surely’s a very tight-knit neighborhood of ladies which can be fighting the identical issues and going about therapeutic it in the identical methods as nicely. So, yeah, that’s what…And so we speak extra about that program at bittanywatkins.com or you may go instantly to the knowledge at thinkandthin.com.

Katie: Good. And like I stated, these hyperlinks might be within the present notes at wellnessmama.fm so that you guys can discover them simply. And I feel that, like, circles again completely to the start of the dialog of specializing in the truth that, on the finish of the day, it’s really, such as you stated, not concerning the weight reduction in any respect. If something, like releasing fats is a greater focus. However even past that, it truly is concerning the interior aspect, and feeling at peace, and feeling calm and comfy in our our bodies as a result of it’s our physique, not as a result of it wants to be, or look, or measure a sure method. So, to the people who introduced up that time, I feel that’s so essential and I’m not advocating anybody ever being a sure measurement or doing this for seems causes. I really feel like this was such an essential subject to speak about as a result of the load loss for me was a aspect impact of far more essential work. And I’d 100 instances once more select to try this interior work and to really feel the peace I really feel now even when it didn’t lead to the identical bodily adjustments as a result of that was only a aspect impact. And the liberty of how I really feel now was price that work 100 instances over. And I couldn’t comprehend how dramatic that trauma hyperlink was till I skilled it. And I’m certain you hear these tales from ladies on a regular basis.

Brittany: Oh, 100%. I imply, if I may give this a brand new identify, I’d name it the Heal Your Life Program or like Change Your Life Program as a result of, , we don’t concentrate on the load. The weight, similar to you stated, it’s a aspect impact. Like, that’s not even like what I’m captivated with. I really like serving to ladies free themselves and turn into a lot happier and entire and get again onto the trail that they had been meant to be on. As a result of what occurs if you’re fighting, , additional weight is that you’ve, , poor shallowness, you’re saying nasty issues to your self. You, often, , don’t have nice relationships or, , your relationship along with your husband isn’t that nice. Or, , you’re not relationship and also you’re single otherwise you’re not going out. So there’s all these areas of your life that aren’t feeling good, which can be feeling unfulfilled.

So, it’s not that…The funniest factor is that once we get to the top of the six-month program, it’s not that everyone’s at their objective weight as a result of that’s really not the case. Normally, folks will begin to launch weight after the six months is over. Everyone on the finish of this system, they’re like, “Oh my gosh, I’m a lot happier now. I’m a lot freer now.” Loads of them even say, “I don’t even care if I lose the load. I’m so joyful. I’m so grateful that I really feel this good. I don’t even care concerning the weight anymore.” So, it’s actually, actually cool. You recognize, form of regardless of the factor is that the ladies are fighting is often what, , they’ll shift as nicely. So, , lots of ladies will, , earn more money or, like I stated, have higher relationships or really feel happier. Possibly they’ve been fighting despair or feeling anxious or perhaps they’ll be impressed to comply with their ardour as a substitute of being in a company profession, stuff like that we see occur lots.

And it’s simply that a part of it for me is so rewarding. Like I stated, I imply, the load loss isn’t the factor that motivates me. It’s seeing all of the change that occurs and the way a lot happier and empowered ladies are as soon as they launch all these things. It’s principally like having, , a unclean garbage can in your mind that’s, , affecting every part in your life. And if you take out the trash, it’s like every part is clear, and new, and recent. And, , you simply have a brand new lease on life. You could have a brand new outlook on life. And that’s, , the most effective half for me.

Katie: Yeah, completely agree. One other query I really like to ask on the finish of interviews is that if there’s a ebook or a lot of books which have had a dramatic impression in your life, and if that’s the case, what they’re and why?

Brittany: Oh, I keep in mind what ebook I stated final time so I’m not gonna say that one, though that one was nice. The different one I actually appreciated was “An Inconvenient Reality About Relationships.” So, I don’t know, I’ve been exploring relationships for some time ever since I obtained divorced 5 years in the past. And this ebook, it was written in such a special method that it actually, actually gave me a brand new outlook on relationships and actually helped open my thoughts up to, , what’s doable and helped me see additionally what I used to be struggling in with my marriage. It helped unlock lots of the explanations that I used to be struggling. Oh, one other individual to comply with, if, , anyone desires assist with males, and relationship, and relationships, which I do know isn’t what we’re speaking about right now. However all my girlfriends all the time ask me for relationship recommendation, and I assume I’m fairly good at it, is Allison Armstrong. She has so many nice on-line audiobooks about understanding ladies, understanding males. These have simply been life-changing for me, not to simply perceive males but additionally to perceive myself and the best way that I function simply, , in a female method.

Katie: I like it. I’ll put hyperlinks to these within the present notes as nicely. Brittany, thanks for being right here and sharing once more. I feel that is one thing, like we talked about, that’s effervescent up for lots of people proper now. Such as you stated, we’re all going through issues that form of we’ve by no means had to face earlier than. And the fantastic thing about it’s, with the appropriate mindset, that’s really an exquisite alternative to deal with lots of this stuff. We’re simply being given a complete lot of those academics this yr. So I really like that you simply’re serving to folks discover methods to work via and to study from and to profit from all of those stressors that we don’t have any management over proper now. So thanks to your work and to your time.

Brittany: Yeah, completely. Thanks for having me, Katie.

Katie: And thanks as all the time for listening, for sharing your most respected useful resource, your time, with each of us right now. We’re so grateful that you simply did. And I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.”

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