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Katie: Hey, and welcome to the Wellness Mama Podcast. I’m Katie from wellnessmama.com and wellnesse.com, that’s “wellnesse” with an E on the finish. And this particular episode is all about some sensible and evidence-based methods and dietary supplements that I’m utilizing to concentrate on intestine and immune well being proper now and to hold my household, hopefully, protected and effectively. And I really feel like supporting immune well being and intestine well being, that’s essential all the time, one thing we are able to all all the time enhance and it’s actually essential to do anytime, however particularly essential proper now, which is why I requested my pal Tina Anderson of Simply Thrive Well being to be part of me right now. And we speak about a number of merchandise which might be backed by scientific research, together with her probiotic which is backed by a double-blind placebo research, and the results these can have on intestine well being and what that appears like for supporting the immune system. We additionally delve into another immune-supporting methods which might be cheap or fully free, and a few way of life administration stuff that we’re each doing to hold our households wholesome and glad proper now, in the midst of all of this. However I believe this episode is filled with numerous actually sensible ideas, and I hope that it’ll enable you to and your loved ones. And with out additional ado, let’s be part of Tina.

Tina, welcome. Thanks for becoming a member of me once more.

Tina: Thanks, Katie. I’m so excited to be right here.

Katie: I’m so excited to chat with you, and that’s one in every of my silver linings of us each being caught in houses proper now’s that I’ve extra time to do issues like podcast, which implies I get to speak to you right now. So, I’m gonna be extraordinarily grateful for that, and I do know that that’s your mindset as effectively is to discover the constructive. And other people have heard me quote you a lot, many occasions. You had been the origin of my quote that every thing will work out completely for me. That got here from you, so I all the time have to say that after we’re collectively or chatting.

However I’m excited right now. I believe we have now loads to speak about proper now simply in a really well timed means with all of the issues which might be occurring and simply how unsure and a little bit bit wild every thing has gotten in the previous few weeks, after all, with the virus and every thing else. And I can’t wait to delve into some sensible methods on this after which actually go deep on a few them. So, to begin, I’d love to hear each out of your mindset after which on the sensible aspect, what are you doing to assist your personal system and your loved ones proper now?

Tina: Yeah. I believe from the mindset is tremendous essential, Katie. I imply, that’s actually the key to this. That is such a scary time for folks, and I believe we should always simply shift our focus. You already know, you’re proper. I speak about gratitude all the time as a result of I believe gratitude permits us to shift our focus, and I’ve been simply specializing in how glad I’m to have extra time with my children. My one daughter is in school in California, and he or she’s house with me now. So it’s so fantastic to have her round and having my son…, having my children round and having time and consuming dinner collectively at the desk and all that form of stuff as a substitute of specializing in what’s occurring in the information and watching the information. And I’ve been actually attempting to concentrate on my thoughts as a result of it’s scary for all of us, even folks like me who actually strive to take a look at…, shift my focus in that respect.

And one in every of the greatest issues I do is breathwork. I’m an enormous fan of doing deep respiratory. I do meditate. I don’t meditate in addition to I believe perhaps I ought to, however I’m actually into breathwork, and meditation, train, sauna. All of these issues are simply so key throughout this time for our psychological well being in addition to our bodily well being. After which, after all, taking every kind of dietary supplements, that are tremendous critically essential, like the probiotic, IgG, prebiotic, the vitamin C, vitamin D. Making an attempt to get outdoors as a lot as attainable to get vitamin D and all these sorts of issues. Staying actually hydrated I believe can also be actually essential.

Katie: Completely. And, yeah, I believe we’re gonna delve into all of these methods intimately right now, and I’m all the time reminded of…effectively, initially, each time I speak to you, I really feel such as you elevate my spirits and also you’re simply such reminder of being grateful and discovering the constructive. And at occasions like this, I additionally consider one in every of my favourite books is “Man’s Seek for That means,” and there’s a quote from Viktor Frankl. He stated, “All the things could be taken from a person however one factor, the final of human freedoms to select one’s angle in any given set of circumstances, to select one’s personal means.” And I simply hold occupied with that in a time like this as a result of so many people are advised we are able to’t go anyplace. Like, a lot we’re advised we can’t do. And that’s what I’ve been reminding my children and reminding myself is that we nonetheless have all the time the selection to select to be constructive and to be grateful and to be that for others in our life as effectively.

And likewise I do know we each know Ryan Vacation, and I like all of his books, form of his trendy method to stoicism. And it’s humorous as a result of there’s a Latin quote, “Amor fati,” which implies love of destiny or principally love what’s. And that was form of my quote for this 12 months. I didn’t fairly count on to get such a crash course in it as a result of it’s straightforward to love your destiny when…, like a month in the past every thing is fantastic, and the economic system appears to be like like…every thing’s going nice, and all the children are wholesome, and enterprise is nice. And it really requires a little bit extra work after we’re really going through arduous issues, and in order that’s been my internal lesson I believe. And that is to be taught to love even the unhealthy issues as a result of there’s a lesson or there’s a silver lining or there’s in every thing, not simply the issues that at the beginning look appear good.

Tina: Sure. Oh, my God, I like that, Katie. That’s precisely the means I strive to stay my life myself and check out to unfold that to so many different folks. However I do know it’s arduous when individuals are struggling and shedding jobs and the financial uncertainty. It’s very scary, however then you definately’re proper. We’ve the energy to management our angle towards no matter scenario that we’re offered with.

Katie: Precisely. And that’s why I like that we began with mindset. I believe that’s tremendous essential, and I simply hold reminding folks, too, is each storm runs out of rain, and this too shall go. And earlier than we transfer into the well being methods, I additionally simply wanna say like I believe our phrases are so essential, and so I’m asking folks to take into account altering and cease saying social distancing. Possibly say bodily distancing, however I believe we’d like emotional and social connection. It makes me unhappy to see folks being afraid of different folks, and I do know we have now to hold our distance, however let’s not social distance let’s simply bodily distance for now.

Tina: I like that, so true.

Katie: Okay. So let’s speak about the well being aspect now as a result of the motive I needed to have you ever on proper now particularly is that you’ve carried out numerous analysis and created superb merchandise that assist intestine well being. And I do know most individuals perceive that the intestine has a very essential position in our immune system, however I wanna actually like…are you able to stroll us via that intimately and clarify simply how our intestine well being impacts clearly our entire physique however our immune well being?

Tina: Oh, positively. Actually, this can be a time that we needs to be specializing in our intestine well being, I imply, if there’s ever a time. I’m really simply so grateful that I’m in the enterprise that I’m in proper now as a result of figuring out that my children and my mother and father and my in-laws and siblings and relations and shut pals and our household of shoppers are taking these merchandise as a result of it’s…that is the most crucial time to be taking good care of our intestine well being. This can be a time that we’d like to construct our resilience.

There is no such thing as a remedy proper now for COVID-19. There’s been nothing to present that there’s a drug or pharmaceutical pure treatment on the market to present that we may deal with or stop COVID-19. However what we do know is that we have now to depend on our personal immune system to shield us from this as a result of there isn’t a drug or remedy on the market. And our immune system has to be functioning optimally. So all the issues we do to be wholesome are actually essential, and the intestine performs a very essential position in the immune system.

So, about 80% of our immune tissue is in the intestine. We began following the current research on how the immune system battles this specific virus. There was a research on the market that got here out of Australia, and we discovered that the research was displaying that there was a proliferation of cells referred to as T cells and B cells which might be required to detect and begin to struggle the virus. And most of that proliferation happens in the tissues which might be present in the intestine in the small gut, and that’s why it’s so essential to be taking good care of our intestine.

The secret’s a more healthy microbiome as a result of it’s our microbiome that stimulates these tissues to enhance the proliferation of the immune cells. So, , take into account our immune system is our solely protection in opposition to this virus proper now, and 80% of our immune system is in the intestine. So when you’ve got a dysfunctional intestine, your immune system could be suppressed or confused, or on the flip aspect, when you’ve got a wholesome and a functioning microbiome, your immune system needs to be working extra optimally.

So the virus, this coronavirus does infect the intestine as effectively. We all know that, there was a current research that confirmed that the virus offered in excessive ranges in fecal matter. So it’s replicating in the intestine. And truly, there was one other research that confirmed that 53% of the instances of COVID-19 present gastrointestinal signs first earlier than even a scratchy throat, like diarrhea, cramping, that kind of factor. So, the intestine immune system is attempting to determine how to take care of it.

So, our immune system is predominantly in the intestine, and the intestine drives the functioning and the proliferation of the immune system beginning in the intestine however then all over the place else in the physique as effectively. So, it turns into a very essential a part of our protection mechanism, and naturally probiotics may help. You already know, we present that the strains in Simply Thrive really up-regulates a few of the useful immune responses in the intestine, which then interprets to the remainder of the physique as effectively.

We additionally know that the strains, the spores which might be present in Simply Thrive, additionally enhance the variety of micro organism in your intestine, which is absolutely essential for conserving your immune system primed and may help hold down the pathogenic infectious micro organism and compete in opposition to them in the intestine, which is absolutely essential. As a result of like the final thing we’d like proper now’s the overgrowth of any pathogenic micro organism which might be producing toxins and rising irritation and rising leaky intestine as a result of all of that works in opposition to a functioning immune system. So actually, actually essential to hold our intestine as robust and wholesome as attainable throughout this time as a result of a lot of our immune system is present in our intestine.

Katie: Yeah. I believe that’s such an incredible level. Once more, to concentrate on what’s in our management is we all know that there aren’t any direct cures for this, even medication that’s instantly working, though I do know that there are scientists working arduous on that. However what we are able to do, such as you stated, is to concentrate on methods to fortify our personal system to have the ability to deal with this. And I additionally all the time remind folks, our immune system was designed to have the ability to do that. For this reason we have now an immune system. And so we don’t have to go into full freak out mode. We simply want to discover some sensible methods that assist our immune system be prepared in case. And I believe, such as you simply defined, that this can be a actually essential issue is intestine well being. Are you able to speak about… I do know you probably did in your first podcast episode, and I’ll be sure that’s linked in the present notes. However simply give us a primer, once more, on the various kinds of probiotics and why you wanna concentrate on these specific strains, particularly if you’re speaking about attempting to optimize the intestine like this.

Tina: Proper. Okay. Sure. So the strains in Simply Thrive are thought-about spore-based probiotics. Nearly all of different probiotics on the market are made up of Lactobacillus and Bifidobacterium kind pressure. And so the majority of probiotics are made up of those Lactobacillus Bifidobacterium strains are very delicate organisms typically. They’ve problem surviving in the gastric system.

In actual fact, , many want to be refrigerated to keep alive. So we all the time marvel like if it wants to be refrigerated to keep alive, then how in the world will it ever survive your physique temperature, which is 98.6, not to mention the gastric system, which is so acidic and it’s referred to as the gastric barrier. And the reply is most of these strains by no means make it to the intestines alive.

Considered one of the first research that we did as an organization was a survivability research. We took the main promoting probiotic bought at a serious well being meals retailer that had 50 billion depend CFU, colony-forming unit, and it confirmed that 99.99% of the probiotic strains die earlier than they ever bought to the intestines. Since then, an unbiased third-party lab has examined a whole lot of various probiotics on the market displaying that almost all of these die, 99.9% of the cells die by the time they get to the intestines.

So actually, with numerous these probiotics, we’re having lifeless cell remedy, which really, there are some research that present that even lifeless micro organism will present some symptomatic aid. The distinction with the spores which might be present in Simply Thrive is that they have this endospore shell round themselves, and once more, this isn’t one thing that we have now carried out to…, we have now not engineered them. These are the means these strains that we bought from the atmosphere, they naturally had this endospore shell round themselves, and once they have this shell round themselves, they’re dormant. So it’s not till they hit the intestines that they take the shell off, and so they go into their stay vegetative cell state.

So once they’re in the capsule, they’re dormant. After they had been present in the soil, they had been dormant. After they’re in manufacturing, they’re dormant. While you swallow them, they’re dormant. After they undergo your gastric system, they’re dormant. It’s not ’til they hit the intestines that they take their shell off and so they turn out to be alive, and that’s the place you want a probiotic to be alive is in the intestines.

After which the different huge distinction is that once they get in the intestines, they really keep there for about 21 to 28 days the place they work. They go in. You already know, I like to use this backyard analogy, and I believe I discussed it in the first episode is these strains go into the backyard, which you evaluate that to the intestine…to the intestines. They go into the backyard, and so they connect to the soil. They’ve the capacity to do away with the weeds in the backyard, after which they’ve the capacity to carry vegetation which were stepped on and trampled on again to life.

So in the intestine, they’re attaching to the intestinal cell wall. They’ve the capacity to really do away with some pathogenic micro organism, an overgrowth of micro organism. After which they’ve the capacity to really carry good micro organism. They create compounds and vitamins to carry the good micro organism nearly again to life and actually make this lush, lovely, various backyard in our intestine, which is so, so critically essential to our general well being.

Katie: Completely. I believe that distinction is absolutely, actually essential and particularly proper now. And I do know that there are another methods that may go hand-in-hand with that after we’re speaking particularly about intestine well being. Proper now I’ve heard numerous medical doctors, as an example, point out, take away something that may very well be inflammatory proper now, so issues like sugar or processed meals, something that may trigger irritation. After which the useful aspect is placing these issues in the intestine to give it likelihood, such as you stated, for all of these good issues to develop.

One other factor I wanna make certain we speak about, as a result of it’s a brand new product for you guys, and I haven’t talked about on the podcast but, however there’s additionally like doubtlessly a very particular profit proper now’s the position of IgG. So, to begin broad, are you able to clarify to us what IgG is initially, after which we’ll go into the supplemental aspect?

Tina: Positive. Yep. IgG stands for immunoglobulin G, and immunoglobulin G is the most plentiful kind of antibody present in the physique. So, it’s the commonest antibody that’s present in the physique, and its job is to struggle antigens, so issues like micro organism, viruses, and toxins. So it’s actually, actually essential that we have now our IgG, our pure IgG working to struggle that…, seize on.

So what IgG simply does in the physique is it binds. So it grabs on to these toxins which might be discovered from, like I stated, viruses, bacterial overgrowth, pathogenic micro organism, viruses like mildew toxins and totally different kind of environmental toxins, and so they bind them. So that they seize onto them, after which they neutralize them so that they’re not spreading anymore. After which the physique safely removes them from the physique via defecation. So, IgG is so essential, particularly proper now on this time.

And so we have now developed a product referred to as Final IgG, and so what that does is it enable…it provides our physique about 25% extra IgG in our physique. And the precise formulation that’s in our product has been studied in different viral infections. In actual fact, the means we discovered about this ingredient was the work that we did with HIV sufferers.

We had been concerned on this consortium with HIV as a result of we all know that lots of people with HIV are…they’re dying from intestine enteropathy, not essentially the viral load. So, after I say intestine enteropathy, I’m speaking about the leakiness of the intestine or the permeability of our intestine. So, when we have now LPS toxins in our intestine, they may seep into the bloodstream, and that turns into very problematic. It additionally could be very problematic for folks with HIV.

So, this IgG was really additionally studied with totally different viral infections like HIV, and what these research present is that the IgG dramatically will increase the CD4 T cells. And these CD4 T cells are essential and what helps our adaptive immune response to proliferate. So we wish an adaptive immune response. We don’t need an innate immune response. We wish an adaptive immune response after we’re coping with most of these viruses.

So, additionally they present that the oral IgG binds and neutralizes bacterial toxins, mildew toxins, and viral toxins. And there’s no proof that it’s binding COVID-19, and I’m not suggesting that in any respect. However there may be proof that it binds different toxins and pathogens, and this brings down that load on our immune methods, and it brings down the toxigenic impact in the physique. So it’s a very, actually essential supportive mechanism.

They’ve carried out research on utilizing oral IgG and different viral challenges, not COVID-19, however different viruses. And so they really discovered that the presence of the oral IgG consumption actually helps the immune system clear these viral infections sooner than if you don’t have oral IgG. So it’s actually essential. It’s a very supportive mechanism of the immune system and its antiviral part. I imply, principally it’s taking the load off the immune system. The easiest way to take a look at it’s like if we’re taking…, lowering the quantity of unhealthy guys, and so now we have now extra of our pure immune system to be combating what it wants to struggle. So extra instruments in our immune system is principally what it does.

And, , you had talked about irritation, and I believe it’s actually essential to speak about the position of LPS, which I believe I could have talked about briefly. LPS simply stands for lipopolysaccharides. It’s an endotoxin that’s primarily present in our intestine, which isn’t actually that problematic when it’s in the intestine. It’s when it seeps into the bloodstream that our immune system has this like inflammatory response to it. And we did a double-blind human scientific trial on leaky intestine. It was revealed again in 2017, and that research really confirmed that utilizing the spore-based micro organism, we may really scale back the quantity of LPS leaking into the bloodstream.

You already know, and never solely is the fixed leaking of LPS in the bloodstream inflicting low-grade irritation and is the driver of most persistent situation, it’s additionally rising the expression of goal receptors of COVID-19 and different varieties of viruses. So, the extra LPS you might have in your circulation simply is a serious danger issue for the majority of persistent sicknesses, but it surely additionally turns into much more essential now as a result of LPS in your circulatory system will up-regulate the expression of those goal receptors of COVID-19 and different varieties of viruses. So, we actually wanna be sure that we’re sealing up that intestine lining.

And each the spores have been proven in double-blind scientific trial to really assist create proteins to seal up the tight junctions to make the intestine lining stronger. However IgG has additionally proven to actually be supportive of a a lot stronger intestine barrier perform. So, the mixture is absolutely…like I stated, I’m simply so grateful that my children are taking it, my mother and father are taking it, my in-laws. You already know, all my household and our household of shoppers are taking it as a result of I really feel like we’re actually serving to change the world proper now on this pandemic that we’re in as a result of we’re serving to folks actually assist their immune system.

Katie: Yeah. And it’s so useful simply to have the instruments and to know you are able to do one thing that’s gonna assist your physique in case you do get the virus simply to have stronger immune well being generally. And on the notice of IgG, I believe folks could be accustomed to that time period in the event that they’ve had, as an example, like meals sensitivity testing or one thing like that as a result of IgG is principally a marker as effectively in the physique from what I perceive that may…like, as an example, after I do IgG testing, it reveals an allergy to eggs or an intolerance. So I can’t eat eggs. Are you able to clarify like how all these items match collectively?

Tina: Yeah. It’s a little bit totally different. I imply, it’s the identical factor. It’s displaying how our antibodies are responding to an an infection. So, in truth, that research I discussed in Australia, what that research confirmed is that there was a 47-year-old lady who was to develop COVID-19, and so they had been testing her blood. They had been intently monitoring her, and so they discovered that her IgG and her IgM ranges had been heightened when the signs began to go away, so when the COVID-19 signs began to go away.

So it’s telling us that it’s the IgG and the IgM which might be really combating this specific virus, which is absolutely fascinating. It’s a special mechanism than after we’re taking a look at…I imply, we simply know that the IgG is definitely combating…, grabbing on to these specific antigens and pathogens which might be occurring in our physique proper now.

Katie: Obtained it. Okay. That is sensible. And so I believe that’s essential to perceive is that that is one thing that we have now in the physique, and also you stated it’s the most plentiful one. I do know there are additionally ones like IgM and IgA, however such as you stated, so IgG is the one which’s gonna be most concerned on this combating off an infection in the physique and our capacity to face up to that form of factor, proper?

Tina: Proper. It’s most in demand in the physique, and it’s the commonest immunoglobulin antibody in the physique.

Katie: Obtained it. And I believe it’s additionally essential to spotlight that such as you stated in the HIV sufferers in the research there that folks weren’t really dying of the virus itself. They had been dying of the results of it like in the intestine endotoxins, and that seems to be what we’re seeing in numerous instances with COVID is that folks aren’t dying of the virus itself. They’re dying of, as an example, sepsis or secondary issues. And so something we are able to do to fortify the physique to have the ability to higher deal with all of these issues I believe is simply tremendous essential proper now.

Tina: Yeah. I couldn’t agree extra. I imply, all of these items like the vitamin C is tremendous essential, however supporting your intestine barrier is absolutely so, so essential to making…we wish our immune system to be functioning optimally proper now, and that may’t be careworn sufficient. And we all know that the immune system is primarily in the intestine tissue. So it’s actually, actually essential.

Katie: Completely. I do know I’ll put hyperlinks in the present notes at wellnessmama.fm to each the IgG and the probiotic in addition to to a few of the analysis that I do know you guys have and that you just…and a few of the instructional articles in your web site so folks can proceed to delve into that. Such as you stated, I believe we’re gonna proceed to see analysis on this, and particularly when it comes to COVID-19, we’re nonetheless very new in what we all know and what we don’t know, however to have the ability to have some sensible methods that we are able to implement proper now’s so useful.

And on that notice, I wanna additionally speak about like different supportive methods that you just’re doing with your loved ones. I believe we in all probability have numerous overlap in the method we’re taking. You talked about, and I do know that is gonna be a giant one for each of us however simply spending as a lot time as attainable outdoors. The analysis I’m seeing is we all know not from particular research on COVID-19, however we all know from research on respiratory points, to start with, any form of respiratory sickness, that vitamin D is tremendous protecting. And we all know throughout the board that having optimized vitamin D ranges, as an example, enable you to have the ability to higher deal with nearly each kind of sickness, and so that’s one other technique. Fortunately, it’s getting sunny in numerous locations however one other technique that we are able to all implement. I do know I’m attempting to spend as a lot time as attainable outdoors proper now, and I’m guessing you’re, too. However let’s speak about like daylight and vitamin D and time outdoors.

Tina: Oh, yeah, I couldn’t agree with you extra, Katie. I imply, even in the event you’re in chilly climates, it’s so essential to get outdoors. For psychological well being in addition to our bodily well being, we all know we’d like vitamin D to assist assist our immune system as effectively. You already know, I’ve been attempting to spend as a lot time outdoors occurring walks, sweating. I’ve actually been attempting to sweat. I’m lucky sufficient to have a sauna in my home such as you. It’s so essential to be getting that sweat, too. However I imply, even in the event you don’t have a sauna, going out and operating and sweating and getting your physique heated up, which after all helps fight, too.

I imply, the research are displaying now that the virus doesn’t like warmth. In order that’s signal. However we’ve been going outdoors, occurring bike rides, occurring walks. I believe that’s one other reward on this entire factor. I’ve seen so many extra folks outdoors on bike rides, even in the colder climate, and simply strolling as a household and spending time outdoors enjoying basketball outdoors, , simply with the household and doing various things like that. There are such a lot of items on this time. It’s unbelievable. I do know there are numerous unhappy tales, too, however there are such a lot of items. I’m spending extra time with the children and being outdoors collectively and occurring bike rides and issues like that.

Katie: Yeah. I completely agree. I do know faculty being deferred or canceled has been a giant change for lots of households definitely, and I do know numerous mothers perhaps weren’t fairly prepared for summer time to begin in the center of March. However the silver lining of it, such as you stated, is you get time along with your children, particularly with older children, such as you wouldn’t have in all probability gotten to spend a lot high quality time with them at this level in the 12 months in the event that they had been nonetheless in class proper now.

Tina: Yeah, completely. Sure. You’re so proper. My daughter is in school in California, and he or she got here house, and so it’s simply so fantastic to have her house with all of us and simply to be collectively as a household. I really feel so blessed to have that further time and never be operating. That’s the factor, operating from observe to observe and recreation to recreation. It’s been very nice to have this time collectively.

Katie: Yeah. Precisely. I hope that we are able to all look again prior to later and understand that this was a good time of bonding and getting to concentrate on the actually essential issues like time with household. Once more, I’m hoping it will go comparatively shortly. We’ll see. Time will inform. However I hope that we are able to all sooner or later…

Tina: Sure, me too.

Katie: …look again and have constructive reminiscences and have discovered the good in it, and definitely be fascinating to see what our children look again and say, too.

Tina: Proper. I believe it’s so enjoyable seeing the children turn out to be so inventive to do various things. You already know, I simply suppose it’s been an incredible problem for them additionally. I’m not saying it’s not arduous, and I agree. I hope it passes sooner moderately than later, however simply seeing them cooking collectively and being extra inventive and doing various things. My children are older, however I imply, even like some pals you see on Fb and Instagram doing totally different enjoyable issues with their households and cooking. And the memes have been hysterical. I imply, I’ve by no means laughed so arduous with a few of the memes on the market. My mother and I hold sending issues backwards and forwards to one another. We’ve so many various group chats. We did an enormous household group FaceTime with each my husband’s aspect of the household and my aspect of the household. They had been like 20 of us. Nobody may hear something, however we simply laughed the entire time. So, it’s been a time to actually snort and revel in and have time for humor.

Katie: Completely. And I determine prefer it’s a type of issues like I’m gonna strive to be taught. I do know your children are on TikTok. I would like to be taught TikTok. Like all these items I might by no means have ever thought to do in any other case.

Tina: Oh, my God, that’s lucky. That’s all they’re doing is doing extra TikTok. That’s hysterical. I do know. I couldn’t agree extra.

Katie: Yeah. I agree. The memes are humorous, and I believe it’s additionally essential to consider like that is such a uncommon factor that we actually are all on this collectively, not even simply the U.S., however we’re globally on this collectively. And so, I do know that we’re all remoted however at the identical time like we’re in one thing collectively. And if we are able to construct the neighborhood out of this and use this time to nurture relationships and to make them stronger, I believe we are able to, on the different aspect of this hopefully all emerge stronger and higher and extra linked. That’s my hope.

Tina: Completely. I imply, I see it already. I really feel like I’m making extra calls to folks I’ve been out of contact with and simply touching base with folks that point didn’t enable me earlier than to try this. So, it’s very, very true. And there’s so many cool studying. I believe mother and father are studying all these totally different studying instruments on the market. There are such a lot of on-line sources, and I believe individuals are beginning to understand that they may take a much bigger position of their youngster’s studying. That’s fairly cool, too.

Katie: Yeah. It’ll be actually fascinating to see the lasting adjustments in the schooling system that come from this. And what I’ve been encouraging my children to do…as a result of I believe boredom is the huge battle for youths particularly as all of us regulate to like, “How do you retain everybody busy after we’re all in the identical home?” And so what I’ve been encouraging my children to do is I’m like, “We’ve actually the entirety of data, human data obtainable at your fingertips via the web. So how are you gonna use this hopefully solely in subsequent couple of weeks however perhaps months to enhance your self?”

And so I’ve even, since we do homeschool, been letting them negotiate. I’m like, “Come to me with a proposal and inform me the way you’re gonna enhance your self in the subsequent two months and what expertise are you gonna be taught. Let’s make this a time of like constructing and enhancing and never simply pondering of all the unhealthy that’s gonna occur.” And so we’re collectively studying Japanese. I’ve bought children studying harmonica and piano. One is studying how to do a backflip, which I’d die of coronary heart fright from watching her, however she, I’ve little doubt, will get it. And in order that’s my different encouragement to mothers is like let it’s enjoyable. Let it’s a recreation. And like how can all of us enhance ourselves. I’m lastly doing a little train lessons rather more repeatedly as a result of I’m house and have time to do them.

Tina: Proper. Me too. Proper. Precisely.

Katie: Yeah. So the different factor we are able to speak about each from the mother perspective and the well being aspect is the significance of a every day routine generally but in addition like an immune-supporting every day routine proper now. And so like I’ll share some issues that I believe are useful and you’ll construct on them. I’ve talked about it earlier than, however I’m a giant fan of sunshine. Not only for the vitamin D, I believe that’s tremendous essential as effectively. However I’ve all the time inspired folks, and I strive to on a regular basis go outdoors actually quickly after waking up and get pure mild as quickly as attainable after waking up, and that is also essential for immune well being and hormone well being and so many different issues as a result of that mild alerts the entire circadian cascade. And in order that’s one thing easy and free that we are able to all do is simply get mild as quickly as attainable after waking up.

Additionally, I’ve been tightening up my fasting routine proper now simply in the identify of supporting immune well being. What I’ve been studying from the researchers on this like Dr. Peter Attia. He’s saying we don’t know if lengthy water fasts are good proper now as a result of we simply don’t have any analysis on that, and there’s an opportunity they may…like throughout a protracted quick, you may briefly suppress the immune system. So that they’re not recommending lengthy fasts, however they’re recommending form of what they name circadian fasting, which is simply consuming in a shorter window throughout the day, no matter window that finally ends up being for you, after which simply not consuming after darkish. And that’s one other signaling mechanism as a result of meals is a part of that circadian biology.

And so principally like we began speaking about from the very starting of this episode like what are some ways in which we are able to work in concord with our circadian biology and with our biology to assist the immune system naturally and to assist hormone well being naturally and simply to optimize each issue. So, these are a pair I’m doing. I’m additionally ensuring all of us take clearly probiotics and IgG after which additionally vitamin D and vitamin C and get motion each day. How has your routine modified since we have now all turn out to be homebound?

Tina: Yeah. I wanna piggyback on that fasting as a result of I actually am so glad you talked about that as a result of that…I lately over the final 12 months or so I’ve been practising intermittent fasting, and I can’t stress how essential that’s sufficient proper now as a result of we all know…from the leaky intestine research that we did, it confirmed us that each time we eat, it causes…particularly if we have now a leaky intestine, which lots of people…they’re estimating 80% of the grownup inhabitants has a leaky intestine. It causes this inflammatory response. I imply, after all, all of us have to eat. So I’m not suggesting that we don’t eat, however I believe limiting the time is absolutely, actually essential to be supporting our immune system as a result of we don’t need that inflammatory response frequently. And we wanna make certain we’re tightening up the intestine barrier and all of that and the leakiness of the intestine.

However I agree with the fasting. I agree with getting outdoors like we talked about. And the breathwork with the sleep is so essential. I’m so glad you introduced that up as a result of I used to be simply on one other podcast the different day, and I stored speaking about how essential that’s. And I believe it’s actually arduous proper now with the children not being on a daily schedule to enable them to sleep in, and but that’s in all probability one in every of the worst issues that we…

We wish them to get sufficient sleep, however we don’t need them to be messing round with their circadian rhythm and their sleep cycles that they’re accustomed to as a result of that’s probably not nice for his or her immune system both. So, I might positively agree with you on that about the sleep for positive. I’ve been understanding like loopy, too.

Simply the sweating alone is simply I believe actually essential doing numerous understanding. I don’t suppose like actually arduous, arduous strenuous exercise is nice both as a result of that might trigger an excessive amount of stress on the physique, too. You already know, understanding and getting a sweat going I believe is absolutely essential, and like I discussed, the breathwork.

I imply, I agree we’d like to keep away from sugar, and I’ve been actually attempting to try this as effectively. It’s actually arduous proper now with the children as a result of they’re house, and it’s like, “Oh, let’s deal with ourselves,” and attempting to keep away from alcohol, however I’m all the time so grateful for Dry Farm Wines that they don’t have sugar of their wines. So, throughout this time it’s been very nice. I’m like, “Be sure we don’t run out of our Dry Farm Wines,” and I do know you’re a giant fan, too.

Katie: Yeah. Positively shout out to Todd, and likewise simply they’ve been a light-weight and an inspiration throughout this entire factor as effectively. Even separate of the wine, I do know the emails I’m getting from them they’re…although they will’t all come collectively as a group, they’re doing group meditation and grateful observe each single day by way of the web by way of Zoom, and so they’re nonetheless making {that a} precedence. And so they have even been like letting different folks be part of them and simply attempting to encourage everybody to hold the concentrate on gratitude even throughout the arduous time. And fortunately, they had been declared a necessary exercise, and so mine continues to be obtainable. I believe numerous mothers proper now may agree that wine is a necessary.

Tina: Sure. Precisely. And thank God for Dry Farm, precisely. After which, clearly, I’ve been taking numerous vitamin C. So, that’s been nice, and naturally, I like Paleovalley vitamin C. I believe you’re a fan, too, so simply numerous nice…there’s so many nice issues on the market that might assist us simply get via this time for positive, so many nice dietary supplements, so many nice instruments that you just simply talked about. I believe we’re very lucky to have all these instruments in our toolbox.

Katie: I agree, and I’ll make certain, like I stated, that every thing is linked in the present notes, and in the event you guys are listening, I’ll additionally put swipe up hyperlinks to these items on Instagram, so you’ll find them.

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Tina: Sure. Thank goodness, we simply bought an enormous cargo in like two days in the past really, and so we’re actually lucky as a result of it has been promoting like loopy. It’s unbelievable how shortly it’s been promoting, particularly the IgG and the probiotic, after all, is all the time a prime vendor for us, however the IgG is simply going loopy as a result of we hold listening to about it.

You already know, you pay attention to the press briefings, the White Home press briefings, and also you all the time hear the medical doctors speaking about the IgG and your IgM and your IgG, and so I believe individuals are beginning to perceive, “Wait, I would like to listen to what IgGs do in the physique.” So, yeah, that’s been promoting like loopy. So, proper now we do. So hopefully, it’ll keep that means so we may get it out to as many individuals as attainable. We really did begin placing a restrict on orders as a result of we simply don’t need to have a hoarding scenario both as a result of that was occurring in the starting, too.

Katie: Obtained it. Yeah. And that’s one other factor to converse to from, like simply the mother aspect via all that is I do know there’s every kind of encouragement on-line to please not hoard and solely take what we really need proper now however simply to reiterate that and likewise to be supportive. I do know like I’ve been texting people who stay close to us and simply checking in like, “Do you guys want something? Can I depart something in your porch?” You already know, like I believe that facet of neighborhood is absolutely essential as issues do inventory out, which is absolutely unhappy to see, and particularly I do know there’s even some aged folks in our space that weren’t ready to get issues like rest room paper as a result of folks had been hoarding it. And so I additionally simply encourage folks like examine in. I do know we are able to’t like bodily examine in, however examine in with folks close to you and see how one can assist and construct neighborhood. And I believe like if all of us concentrate on that. Hopefully, this factor will finish quickly, but when not, we’re all gonna get via it higher than we entered hopefully.

Tina: Completely. And, sure, that’s I believe one other…I’m glad you introduced that up, too. Simply serving to all people in the neighborhood and neighborhood has been nice, and I believe it’s been nice for the children, too. And I believe that’s one other great point to do for the children is getting them concerned in that, and perhaps driving their bikes and bringing over a pair rolls of bathroom paper to the aged and different folks in the neighborhood which might be immunocompromised and shouldn’t be going to the retailer in any respect both.

So, I agree. One other reward is to present the children how to give again as a result of I believe children are so targeted on their actions, and we have now to go to this observe and this observe, and we’ve bought homework and do that. It’s like this can be a time to enable them to give again greater than they perhaps had time to in any other case.

Katie: Yeah, such perspective. Okay. So on a sensible stage simply dosage clever. I do know that neither of us are medical doctors, and we’re not attempting to give medical recommendation. Though, for anybody listening, I do know telemedicine is what they’re saying is the choice proper now. Like, don’t go anyplace until you completely have to medically. So I’ll put a hyperlink to SteadyMD, which is my type of concierge telemedicine that I exploit with our household. So, in the event you do want to speak to a medical skilled, I’ll put that hyperlink in the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. However with out giving medical recommendation, Tina, I’m curious, like simply stroll us via what dosing you’re taking of all the totally different merchandise proper now to assist your immune system.

Tina: Okay. Positive. So the probiotic I take usually I might take one a day. During this time, I’m taking two a day, and after we say two a day, I take two at the identical time, and also you all the time take it after a meal. That’s what I all the time do. However, , one or two a day is so, so essential, and even in the event you took a half of the capsule each day or one capsule each different day, you’re in such a greater form than someone that’s not getting these spores in them. So I might positively advocate doing that.

The IgG might be my subsequent precedence. I take 4 of these a day. The conventional dosage is 4 a day. The one motive I’ve my mother and father, my in-laws taking greater than that as a result of I simply actually wanna be sure that they’re completely supported as a result of they’re saying it’s affecting the aged a little bit bit extra. Not that I take into account any of them aged as a result of they really feel so younger, however they meet the age standards, so 4 a day for most individuals.

You might take up to 10 a day as a result of the research that was carried out on the components really was 5 grams, four capsules of our product is 2 grams. So anyway, you may take up to 10 capsules, however I often take four a day. I take a scoop filled with our prebiotic. After all, the prebiotic is so, so essential as a result of it’s serving to feed our good micro organism in our intestine. So, I try this.

After which I take vitamin C. I take like 4 or 5 of the Paleovalley vitamin C. I’m taking about 30,000 IUs of the vitamin D however principally attempting to get outdoors attempting to try this. What else am I doing for… I’ve so many dietary supplements, Katie. You might solely think about, and, after all, our vitamin K2 I’m taking. As a result of if you’re taking vitamin D, you want to take the vitamin K2.

Oh, our Gluten Away product. That’s the different factor, Gluten Away. I imply, we don’t want to get into that. We may do a complete different episode. However that’s actually essential as a result of after we’re consuming gluten, there’s a research that present that everybody that eats gluten, even in the event you don’t have any outward signs of gluten intolerance, it’s nonetheless displaying this inflammatory response. So, I’m attempting to take gluten away earlier than I eat so it may assist shield a little bit little bit of that. It’s not a alternative for a gluten-free food regimen and that we may speak about that later. Largely the probiotic, the IgG are a primary precedence, our prebiotic K2 vitamin. After which vitamin C can also be in all probability quantity three precedence and vitamin D. That’s about it. I do know I’m taking extra, however I can’t actually bear in mind all of them.

Katie: Yeah. I’m in a really comparable protocol, and I’ll kind that out and put it in the present notes so that you guys can discover all of these issues instantly. However I believe as we like get shut to wrapping up, it’s essential to reiterate the place we began, which is like do all of these items bodily to assist your self and your immune system and get sleep and sweat and take dietary supplements. But in addition at the finish of the day, mindset is large as effectively, particularly for both mothers listening, like our mindset so usually impacts the entire household. It like form of has a ripple impact, and so to the diploma that we are able to keep constructive and grateful and all of these issues, that can assist our children navigate this as effectively, and simply to concentrate on the blessings which might be hidden on this in the household time and the capacity to for these of us who’re house have extra time to concentrate on issues and tasks and stuff that we’ve been ready to do.

Tina: Yeah. I couldn’t agree extra. The mindset is so essential, Katie. And the one factor I forgot to point out is affirmations and simply saying that. You already know, being cautious, such as you stated, along with your phrases, the phrases that you just use however saying issues like, “I’m excellent well being. I’m well being. I’m in excellent well being or I’m wholesome,” or no matter it’s that you just wanna say, however saying these issues out loud. And it’s not that they miraculously occur. It’s that you just’re placing that on the market to the world, and then you definately make selections that can assist a wholesome way of life. So I believe, , saying affirmations and having that constructive mindset is so, so essential to your immune well being, is so essential.

Katie: I agree. And like I stated, hyperlinks to every thing will likely be in the present notes at wellnessmama.fm. So in the event you guys are hopefully perhaps in the sunshine exercising when you’re listening to this, you’ll find all of the hyperlinks there. And also you guys depart feedback in the present notes, and each of us will reply questions. I do know we each wanna be to no matter diploma we could be remotely a supply of assist for any of you guys, and I believe the neighborhood is so, so essential proper now. And I’m so grateful for the “Wellness Mama” neighborhood and, Tina, for you and for your loved ones and for everybody spreading positivity and being a supply of assist proper now.

Tina: Nicely, thanks, Katie. I’m so grateful for you and for the platform that you’ve for folks and listeners. You’re a tremendous human being. So thanks.

Katie: Nicely, thanks. And thanks to all of you for listening, for sharing your most dear asset, your time with us right now. We’re each so grateful that you just had been right here, and I hope that you’ll be part of me once more on the subsequent episode of the “Wellness Mama Podcast.” And I hope that quickly it will likely be with all of us not in isolation, however keep constructive and keep grateful and keep effectively.

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